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The Anti-Trump Bourbons: Learning and Forgetting Nothing in Time for 2020

Just seven months into Donald Trump’s administration we are already bombarded with political angling and speculations about the 2020 presidential race. No one knows in the next three years what can happen to a volatile Trump presidency or his psychotic enemies, but for now such pronouncements of doom seem amnesiac if not absurd.

Things are supposedly not going well politically with Donald Trump lately, after a series of administration firings, internecine White House warring, and controversial tweets. A Gallup Poll has him at only a 34 percent positive rating, and losing some support even among Republicans (down to 79 percent)—although contrarily a recent Rasmussen survey shows him improving to the mid-forties in popularity. Nonetheless, we are warned that even if Trump is lucky enough not to be impeached, if he is not removed under the 25th Amendment or the Emoluments Clause, if he does not resign in shame, even if he has the stamina to continue under such chaos, even if he seeks reelection and thus even more punishment, he simply cannot win in 2020.

In answer to such assumed expertise, one could answer with Talleyrand’s purported quip about our modern-day Bourbons that “They had learned nothing and forgotten nothing.”

Namely, Trump’s enraged critics still do not grasp that he is a reflection of, not a catalyst for, widespread anger and unhappiness with globalization, interventionist foreign policy, Orwellian political correctness, identity politics, tribalism, open borders, and a Deep State that lectures and condemns but never lives the consequences of its own sermonizing.

In particular, the current conundrum and prognostications ignore several constants.

Do Americans Really Believe that Pollsters and the Media Have Reformed?

One, despite the recent Gallup poll, most polls still show Trump’s at about a 40 percent approval rating—nearly the same level of support as shortly before the November 2016 election. That purported dismal level of support is pronounced to be near fatal, when in fact it is not.

Since a) pollsters likely have not much changed their methodology since 2016, and since b) it is fair so assume that the media and those who poll for them continue to despise Trump, and since c) Trump’s exasperating eccentricities continue to make his supporters cautious about voicing their support (even to anonymous pollsters and political surveyors), we can conclude that his actual support could be about 45-47 percent—or close to the percentage of the popular vote he won in 2016.

Given that Trump’s base in the key swing states of the Midwest (the so-called Democratic “blue wall”) has not weakened, there is no real reason yet to think Trump could not win the Electoral College again in 2020 in the same fashion as 2016. In 2004 and 2012, we were told respectively that an unpopular George W. Bush and a sinking Barack Obama might lose reelection; instead they both were re-elected largely with the same election calculus and an even stronger base of support that carried them to victory four years earlier.

Do Americans Really Believe the Messenger Nullifies the Message?

As in 2016, many of those who voted for Trump would prefer that he curb his tweets, clean up his language, sleep eight instead of five hours, and follow all the conventional-wisdom admonitions offered about his misbehavior. But that said, nearly half of the country is probably still willing to overlook his eccentricities for several reasons.

Trump now has a presidential record of eight months. Despite the media’s neglect of it, one can sense changes by just getting out and traveling the country. Even in rural central California, one can feel that it really is true that there is a 76 percent drop in illegal immigration, and immigration law is being taken seriously as never before.

It was no accident that the National Council of La Raza without warning dropped its racialist nomenclature and is now UnidosUS (“Together, US”). Why is the Democratic Party now feigning a focus on class, not racial, issues with its new “Better Deal” FDR/Truman-like echo?

The same pragmatics about changed attitudes are reflected in dozens of local roadside canteens in my environs that have taken down their showy Mexican flags and are now waving even larger American ones. Cement trucks and construction cranes are ubiquitous on the roads in a way not true over the prior eight years. Talk to business people, and they are citing new projects and investments, not voicing anxieties about higher taxes and more regulatory hostility.

The point is not just that no one can know the ultimate fate of the Trump agenda, but rather that so far media hysteria and congressional calcification have not stopped perceived conservative progress. The bottom line is that Trump did prove to be far more conservative than Republican establishmentarians had forecast.

Much of Trump’s success so far comes despite congressional ossification and is clearly psychological: people with money to invest or to build things prefer to do so when the head of the regulatory state urges them to create jobs, make money, and help their country get richer, not when he warns them that it is not the time to profit, that they need to share and spread around their wealth, that they must calibrate when they have made enough profits, and that they should concede that  the state built their businesses as much as their own daring and talent.

Despite congressional failure so far on reforming Obamacare, conservatives are delighted not just with the Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court appointment, but also with literally dozens of conservative lower federal court appointments, who are both youngish and judicially restrained. Would they have preferred to let Hillary Clinton decide the trajectory of the Supreme Court for the next two or three decades?

Does anyone think a President John McCain or Mitt Romney would have pulled out of the Paris climate change accord?

Trump’s team is reinventing the Environmental Protection Agency, giving clean coal a second life, opening up natural gas and oil exploration on federal lands, building pipelines, and exporting energy. The crash in world oil prices is bankrupting exporters like Russia, Middle East autocracies, and the Gulf States, whose influences are now pruned back by a dearth of cash.

The major cabinet officials are competing to deregulate the deep state and free up individual initiative.

At home the economy grew at a 2.6 percent annualized rate last quarter, and corporate profits at are record levels. So is the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Unemployment is lower than at any time in an over a decade.

The trade deficit is even shrinking and lots of companies have announced relocations to the United States, in reaction to record cheap energy costs and a perceived favorable business environment. And all this comes at a time when the United States is neither seeking optional military interventions nor backing away from thuggish aggression, but is trying to thread the needle in restoring deterrence along the lines of “principled realism.”

The point is not just that no one can know the ultimate fate of the Trump agenda, but rather that so far media hysteria and congressional calcification have not stopped perceived conservative progress. The bottom line is that Trump did prove to be far more conservative than Republican establishmentarians had forecast. To his supporters, Trump’s message is usually distinguished from Trump, the messenger. Politically that means pragmatist supporters can focus on his agenda not his tweets, while Trump’s die-hard voters like his Twitter combativeness, viewing it as a long overdue media comeuppance.

Trump himself is less rather than more likely to keep running a chaotic White House. Appointments like John Kelly as chief of staff, or H.R. McMaster as national security advisor and James Mattis as defense secretary are not symptoms of a sell out to the Deep State, but evidence of Trump’s own acknowledgment that for his populism to be effective, he needs structure and focus.

In sum, lots of Americans support what Trump is doing rather than agreeing with what he sometimes is saying and tweeting—and even more of his base like both.

Do Americans Really Listen to the Conservative Elite Establishment?

Third, Trump does not run in a vacuum, but always in a landscape of alternatives. The Republican Party is split, but so far the NeverTrump establishment is smaller and less influential than the returning Tea-Party/Trump/Reagan Democrat conservative base that in part sat out in 2008 and 2012 or once voted Democratic.

One of the strangest ironies of the present age is that Trump’s populism (e.g., “our farmers”, “our vets”, “our coal miners”, “our workers”), which saved the Senate and House for Republicans and delivered the greatest Republican majorities on the local and state level since the 1920s, is either ridiculed or ignored.

What Trump loses to elite Republican and conservative disdain expressed in op-eds and news show round tables or to Lindsey Graham and John McCain-like denunciations, he has more than made up with new populist Republican support in small towns and communities nationwide. For now, it is hard to imagine any other potential Republican nominee rallying a crowd like Trump or appealing to the losers of globalization in such dramatic fashion.

That we are, once again, being advised that Republican grandees are looking for a new version of Evan McMullin, or that a cranky John Kasich will reenter the primary race in 2020, or that Jeff Flake insists that he is the moral superior to those who stooped to vote for Trump, to be honest, means nada.

More than 90 percent of Republicans voted for Trump before he had a political record, and about the same will do it again based on his conservative agenda as expressed and enacted so far. If the economy hits 3 percent economic growth, with near 4 percent unemployment, the Dow does not crash, and if the Russian collusion charges end up only with symbolic scalps (and all that is possible if not likely), Trump will win over half the independents, solidify his base and likely take the Electoral College.

One of the strangest ironies of the present age is that Trump’s populism (e.g., “our farmers”, “our vets”, “our coal miners”, “our workers”), which saved the Senate and House for Republicans and delivered the greatest Republican majorities on the local and state level since the 1920s, is either ridiculed or ignored.

Yet the more the economy picks up, the more the administration prunes back the regulatory state, and the more the United States restores deterrence, the shriller will be the argument that Trump’s tweets and behavior nullify solid achievement. Just watch.

Will the New Democratic/Progressive Party Really Rebuild the Blue Wall?

Fourth and finally, the less publicized split in the Democratic Party is probably worse than that of its Republican counterpart. The latter did not stop Trump’s victory in the Electoral College, the former helped ensure Hillary’s “Blue Wall” collapsed.

Truth is, the party mortgaged its soul to the identity politics lobby, and thereby embraced a number of fatally wrong assumptions.

The current head of the Democratic National Committee, Thomas Perez, is best known for his profanity-laced tirades; his more unstable subordinate Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) recently claimed that Kim Jong-un was a more responsible actor than the president of the United States, while Justice Neil Gorsuch was an illegitimate Supreme Court judge. The former DNC head, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is facing myriad bizarre scandals. Her replacement Donna Brazile became most famous as a CNN talking head who leaked debate questions to the Clinton campaign. With disreputable icons like these, who needs opposition research?

Almost any of Bill Clinton’s 1990s talking points on government, immigration, race, taxes, or law enforcement could not be voiced today by any mainstream Democratic politician. In 2008, Hillary drank with boilermakers; in 2016 she smeared the lower middle class with taunts of “deplorables” and “irredeemables.”

Truth is, the party mortgaged its soul to the identity politics lobby, and thereby embraced a number of fatally wrong assumptions.

First, record minority registration and turnout for Barack Obama were not automatically transferable to other Democrat grandees. Obama pushed the party hard leftward with a new strategy of uniting previously feuding minority groups under an us/them binary of anti-“white privilege” while at the same time soothing liberals with his Ivy League pedigree, his exotic hip multicultural name, and his mellifluent banality. It is hard to see too many other candidates recreating such political gymnastics.

Democrats are finally worrying that they have lost the white working class; they should be even more terrified that they might lose 40 percent of the traditional minority vote if the economy keeps growing and Trump keeps talking about protecting low wage-earners from the dual threats of globalization and illegal immigration.

Second, if Obama did not bequeath an upside legacy, he certainly left a downside. Tribal obsessions with identity politics were implicitly an attack on the white working class. Those in Ohio and Pennsylvania were not just angry for being written off as bitter clingers, irredeemables, and deplorables, but also furious to be scapegoated for having “white privilege” by those who alone enjoyed it. A party run by Pajama Boys, half-educated media talking heads, Middlebury-prolonged adolescents, Bay Area billionaire techies in t-shirts and flip-flops, Hollywood gated grandees, Al Gore green elites, and Black Lives Matter activists is not going to win easily back Michigan and Wisconsin.

Finally, the Democrats failed to see that class-based populism is a far more inclusionary and thus dynamic phenomenon than is racial tribalism—for both whites and non-whites. Democrats are finally worrying that they have lost the white working class; they should be even more terrified that they might lose 40 percent of the traditional minority vote if the economy keeps growing and Trump keeps talking about protecting low wage-earners from the dual threats of globalization and illegal immigration.

In sum, the Democratic Party has learned nothing and forgotten nothing. It is doubling down on exactly what lost it the Blue Wall.

Ditto the Republican NeverTrump establishment that seeks to recapture relevance by reemphasizing exactly what lost it influence in 2016. The argument that Trump, the man, is so beyond moral redemption that Trump’s agenda is irrelevant will not fly with those who feel that they are already better off than in 2016. And the idea that conservative populism is a temporary deviation from a winning and properly orthodox Jeb Bush conservatism is delusional.

Trumpism is not an eponymous political movement per se. It was merely an adjective for the reification of far greater preexisting political realities.

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609 replies
  1. Schmutzli
    Schmutzli says:

    A superb piece by perhaps the best writer and commentator since Thomas Sowell retired.

    What is not accentuated is that Donald Trump and his administration is not only dealing with the “deep state” that lingers in the massive bureaucracy after every presidency, but with a particularly dangerous minefield domestically and internationally deliberately laid by by the sinister Barack Hussein Rspect and his nefarious regime.

    At least half of the USA is sick and tired of being governed by people who consider themselves our betters, confiscate and re-distribute our property to the lazy and undeserving, defend the indefensible, invite invaders who mean to do us harm into our midst, and exempt themselves from the restrictions they bind us to.

    Because of Rspect, the maniacs of the Marxocrat party, Big Media, Big Academia, Big Legal, and smarmy RINO’s like McCain, Collins, and Murkowsky, the USA is a powder keg with a slow burning fuse.

    This goes beyond Donald Trump. The rot of the Clinton and Rspect years has imperiled the survival of the Republic, and not all of us are ready to let it fall.

  2. Peter63
    Peter63 says:

    Excellent, as always, from Professor Hanson.

    What is not apparent yet is whether the Trump presidency can survive either of the following two tsunamis coming against it.

    [1] The all-in opposition – frantic, absolute – from the Political Class, the Mainstream Media (both owned by Big Money, Wall St, the Chamber of Commerce and also vehicles for the Left), whose agenda is exactly opposite to the President’s.

    [2] The collapse of the dollar and the world economy, long overdue, resulting from the super-gigantic debt overhang – very many trillions on-balance-sheet and still more off-balance-sheet in most governments. This – in principle – could be delayed by President Trump using his ability to appoint a large majority to the Fed board (owing to natural wastage: most members retire shortly) and get them to base the dollar on a fixed gold standard of $10,000 per troy ounce (not a round sum plucked out of the air but the current value of gold considering the quantity of that precious metal and the quantity of money currently on Earth). But will he have the time to do that – which is something I think he wants to do (he needs till February at the earliest) or will the Suicide Squadron – Big Money, Wall St etc. – crash everything (not least their own fortunes) into ruin before then?

  3. SmartProf
    SmartProf says:

    Another great piece from Professor Hanson.
    I’d only add that the NeverTrump / Bill Kristol crowd is also motivated by self-interest. They realize after their 2016 shellacking that the only way the media will pay attention to them is if they go full anti-Trump.

  4. bilahn
    bilahn says:

    Mr Hanson – I used to think you were reasonable – you have thrown your decency and morality out the window. I will never read you again.

  5. Cherubin
    Cherubin says:

    Trump will very likely be elected to a second term if he can stay the course and resist the temptation to curry favor with the Left. So far, he has managed to prevail in the face of the slings and arrows of a near monolithically hostile press and and the active sabotage from the elites within his own party. It seems the only person who can damage his relation with his supporters is Donald J. Trump and so far, his supporters have stuck with him in spite of the incredible array of forces marshaled against him.

    If he weren’t so vulgar and narcissistic, I might believe he is God’s anointed sent to chastise the pagan barbarians.

    • redmanrt
      redmanrt says:

      “If he weren’t so vulgar and narcissistic”

      Foolish objection. We wanted and needed a street fighter. We got a brawler. Whatever it takes to stop the communists.

      • Cherubin
        Cherubin says:

        It is not an objection; it is an observation. Is it your contention that Trump is not vulgar and narcissistic?

        • NASArefugee
          NASArefugee says:

          “Vulgar” is derived from the name given to common speech in Latin, as opposed to the classical forms retained by the academy. So in that regard, yes, Trump is “vulgar”, namely speaking the language of the common man,and God bless him for it.

          As to whether Trump is narcissistic, first and foremost, he is a New Yorker, and his hyperbolic braggadocio in and of itself is simply a reflection on this; ditto for the use of his name-recognition in his business properties. When he talks about the country, our workers, our accomplishments and failings, he always uses “us” and “our”, in distinction to Obama, who couldn’t talk about something as banal as soybean futures without using “I” and “me” in every sentence.

          I believe Barack Obama is pathologically narcissistic and borderline sociopathic. From what I have seen, Donald Trump as a private individual is both considerate and personally modest. So no, I do not believe Donald Trump is truly vulgar or narcissistic in the sense that you mean.

          The disconnect is simple: You fail to distinguish between Donald Trump, the man, and Donald Trump the businessman and head of state.

          • R J Ault
            R J Ault says:

            Good God, do you really believe this garbage. Donald Trump is a textbook narcissist and sociopath who has a long history of criminal behavior in his career as a “businessman” In office he has confirmed that he is a racist and a proto-fascist wannabe. I can’t wait for you to explain it away when he tries to cancel the 2020 election.

          • R J Ault
            R J Ault says:

            Actually I wore the uniform of this country I love. In my personal email I see that you have threatened me with physical violence. To do that you’d have to get out of your mom’s basement

          • redmanrt
            redmanrt says:

            You don’t love this country. You voted for a communist who announced he was going to “fundamentally transform” this country, that is, destroy it. Then you voted for the Stalinist Clinton thing. That makes you a vicarious criminal, vermin to be dealt with.

          • JimBob777
            JimBob777 says:

            Air Force, right? There is no way that you’d ever strap on a rucksack and get your boots dirty.

          • jerseymark
            jerseymark says:

            You are worse than a delusional know nothing. You are a liar who cannot back up any of the lies you spout. You wouldn’t recognize a textbook narcissist or sociopath if they hit you in the nose. You really should not use words you have no clue what they mean.

          • Brian McGregor
            Brian McGregor says:

            hiLIARry lost, fool. get over it. The Dem/Fascists party’s infatuation with the repressive, anti-First Amendment, Fascist “anti-fa” is going to ensure they lose even more of the blue wall in 2020

        • marque2
          marque2 says:

          I would say vulgar – but like a common person. It is a sign he isn’t a stuffy wine and cheese elite – and is actually endearing to the common man.

          • R J Ault
            R J Ault says:

            I see that “Redmanrt” has threaten you as well. Wear that threat as a badge of honor. You’ve pissed off a Nazi racist thug.

          • marque2
            marque2 says:

            Are you talking about Obama? He is the one who seemed to hate Jews. I wouldn’t want to puss off Obama – just like with Hillary I might mysteriously end up committing suicide – or get killed in a robbery where the thieves take nothing.

        • zgli
          zgli says:

          I was a reluctant supporter of Trump. Ben Carson, then Cruz. Basically, I had no idea what Trump would do and I knew what the hildabeast WAS. Now, after seven months I learned to ignore his tweets and what he says that is vulgar and personal offensive. I simply watch what he DOES. So far, I like all of it. He governs as a Constitution conservative in actions, EO’s, laws , deregulation, cancelling the Paris climate scam, Gorsuch, judicial nominees, etc.. Pay no attention to tweets, I think he is trying to make the Presstitutes go insane. I like that too.

          • jerseymark
            jerseymark says:

            You got it – it is all a smokescreen in his manipulation of the media as they focus on those things while he moves his agenda elsewhere. Besides that, he even wins in his tirades as seen in the current state of CNN. He is exactly what his base wants him to be and is our voice as we do hate the Left media bias. He just wins and wins and wins and this whole Russia thing will be one of his biggest wins when Mueller returns a report of no collusion and no obstruction except by Democrats.

          • zgli
            zgli says:

            Mueller has the A team democrat Hil dog donors. They will find something to prosecute and they will. They want to put Trump in prison for loving Americans. And his family.

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          No, not my contention. You put words in my mouth in my presence, and you will regret it. My obvious contention is that it doesn’t matter. For your little mind, take note that everyone is a narcissist.

        • John Stephens
          John Stephens says:

          I contend that no one without such traits would have been able to survive the Democrat/Media sneer and smear machine. Do you suggest otherwise?

        • Mike D'Virgilio
          Mike D'Virgilio says:

          I’ll answer your question: no. To say someone “is vulgar” is to say vulgarity is the essence of his being. Is Trump often bombastic and does he occasionally use mild vulgarity? Yes. Big difference than, “Trump is vulgar.” That he has raised such solid children tells me that could never be true.

          And I don’t think Trump is narcissistic. At all. Does he have an ego? Of course he does, as does any successful person at the top of their game, men tending to be more egocentric than women. Narcissism properly understood is a psychological disorder, and regardless of what leftist lunatics and NeverTrumpers say and think, Trump is not psychologically disordered. Again, his children prove dispositive. Narcissists don’t raise such respectful, polished children who respect, love, and admire their father like the Trump children.

          Nuance is called for when criticizing Trump, but his critics don’t do nuance.

      • nihilistic
        nihilistic says:

        Your street fighter bent the knee to the media and left just yesterday. He is a former NY limousine liberal. Old habits die hard and he will always curry favor with the left rather than the deplorables that elected him. It’s the frog and the scorpion.

        • jerseymark
          jerseymark says:

          Really? If you are really interested in the truth, which you are not, you could watch an interview he gave in 1999 which would confirm that what he says and stands for now is the very same as he did then. He has been rock solid in his views and just because business in NY requires that you touch all the right bases so that those with the political power to shut you down don’t, does not reflect on the truth.

    • Miek D.
      Miek D. says:

      If the Senate RINOs and Democrats pass an Obamacare bailout for the insurance companies, President Trump better veto it. But other than that, I very much approve of the President’s policy’s so far.

    • marque2
      marque2 says:

      You don’t think Jesus was swearing when he threw out the money changers from the temple? I think the gospels described what happened – not the exact words that were said.

      • zgli
        zgli says:

        No, he didn’t curse . Thou shall not take the Lord’s name in vain. Jesus committed no sin, ever. Jesus Christ is God the Son. He was perfect in upholding the Law.

        • marque2
          marque2 says:

          There is no commandment – though shalt not curse. There are quite a few curses that do not involve the Lords name.

          And Jesus wasn’t perfect either – or he would have been able to deal with the money changers without anger.

          • zgli
            zgli says:

            Ok, semantics game now. Ok. Exodus 20:7 from ESV, “You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain”

            Jesus, the Christ, the Annoited One, was perfect. He committed no sin, ever. This made him acceptable to our Holy God, Jehovah. If you can not say this and believe it, then perhaps you should question your faith. Jesus the Christ is God the Son.

        • Cozette
          Cozette says:

          And the pious Pharisees of the day found Jesus to be incredibly vulgar. The Pharisees of our era are

      • redmanrt
        redmanrt says:

        By overturning the tables, Jesus really upset the establishment priests who were getting a cut of the moneychangers’ take. The establishment priests, in their turn, were paying off the Romans. Jesus knew what he was doing. He provoked his crucifixion.

    • mmercier0921
      mmercier0921 says:

      Those anointed by G⊙d serve specific purpose. Their actual actions and methods do not necessarily coincide with what one may wish to believe is moral, in such a period. There are… unpleasant realities, requiring unpleasant methodologies. These things can not be understood or defined by humans.

      Everyone can take a guess, but guessing at the answer to a insoluble reality is just a hpobby. The creation will unfold, or perfect schedule, each person and particle performing a specific and unaltered trajectory.

      The actions of G⊙d is in no manner understandable to the consciensciousneness of the living, for a reason. To understand the reason… he/she/it requires your physical death, first.

      We murdered his last representative, so one may gather from that reality, our present situations.

    • Cozette
      Cozette says:

      Of course he’s God’s anointed. Your instincts are on the money. Don’t be distracted by what you call vulgar. The pious Pharisees were horrified by God incarnates behavior when He lived among us. Now is not the time for effete Politicians. God sent us a warrior. Finally, what you describe as narcissism is actually the self confidence he needs to succeed in the face of overwhelming obstacles. A narcissist cares only about themselves. His relationships with his 5 children, 5 grandchildren, many life long friends from all walks of life and his thousands of employees over decades prove he is the opposite of a narcissist.

  6. Mike Kujawski
    Mike Kujawski says:

    Professor Hanson…..you NAILED it. I live in Mass and tell my horrified friends/co-workers that with President Trump, I don’t focus on what OFFENDS me but what AFFECTS me. I am 100% behind curbing illegal immigration. I am thrilled with Conservative Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch. I am happy the stock market is doing well and the labor market even better. If President Trump could produce a tax cut for the middle class($100,000 or less for singles and $200,000 or less for couples), he would hit a home run and his numbers would go through the roof. Fake news CNN does not understand that his base is still with him and his detractors are still his detractors. I only wish he had the support of all the Republican Congress to make his job a bit easier. I ignore the polls because they were really, really, really off in the 2016 election so why should they be any better now with the same pollsters/methods. I am rooting really hard for President Trump because his success is success for ALL Americans……….

    • redmanrt
      redmanrt says:

      I voted for Trump because I feared the Stalinist Hillary thing. On the morning of 8 Nov. I was convinced Trump would lose. I was wrong, and as it turns out, I now like him more with each passing day.

      Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

      • Dan Warren
        Dan Warren says:

        You are like many other Americans in growing to like President Trump…..his support is NOT dropping, I think it is solidifying and growing.

        Regarding the polls, they are just part of the Leftist Media Narrative…yes, they are rigged…the people who run the polls are part of the same Leftist Elite political class, and they can be bought, as well, but they are NOT for sale to conservative/traditional American candidates.

        I made a lot of money on the political prediction markets at PredictIt.org by ignoring the phony, polls.

        Remember, the polling outfits have ZERO fiduciary rules protecting the public from deliberately manufactured polls….but, like accountants, lawyers, and insurance agents, they SHOULD have fiduciary restrictions regarding their professional practices.

          • jerseymark
            jerseymark says:

            The Trump effect is always in play. When asked about actual policy issues and decisions, the support for his policies shoots up into the mid 60s. They may not like his style as being very different than they are used to, but the folks like what he is doing and stands for which will show up in the voting booth.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            True. Plus I have to note this is another excellent article by Victor Davis Hanson that was well worth the read. He’s right on the money. Not to mention it’s mind blowing that there’s all this speculation being pushed by the media about 2020 and dem potential candidates on the move only a few months into Trump’s first term. At this rate pretty soon they’ll be campaigning for president 8 years before the election they’re shooting at. It’s beyond absurd. Obviously Trump can do no right with these people – they’re living in never never land and will find ways to excoriate him no matter what he says or doesn’t say. I just hope they keep tearing their own to shreds with their asinine divisive intolerant identity politics and victim mentality.

          • Micha_Elyi
            Micha_Elyi says:

            Will Trump fans mobilize to bring their voters to the polls? Or will Trump fans sit around and hope that TV ads and the RNC does the job?

          • Cozette
            Cozette says:

            Trump never used TV ads. Trump fans memed and made free videos to help Trump win the election and they’ve never stopped since. Trump fans also despise the GOP establishment so of course they won’t count on them. Check out reddit the Donald to get a sense of the energy and engagement among the Presidents supporters. They’re having a blast.

          • faithandhonor
            faithandhonor says:

            I keep telling people to ignore those ads on FB, etc, to donate to Trump through the RNCC, ad nauseum. DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO THE PARTY ORGANIZATIONS! They will just use it to undermine the true statesmen that we need in Congress! They have done it, are currently doing, and are snakes. Give to the candidates of your choice, especially if they are underdogs against a well-funded RINO or incumbent.

            This may take that vacation nest egg, Christmas bonus donated to the candidate, with family campouts and non-traditional holiday practices, to fund the newcomers. This is what it will take, with prudent recruitment of VIABLE candidates NOW.

          • sotto voce
            sotto voce says:

            Trump fans know better than to rely on ads and the RNC. We are resourceful and detetmined folks. Remember, we’re the people who wait in lines for hours to attend Trump rallies.

          • Shore111
            Shore111 says:

            According to polls 0bama had a 60% approval rating. Some how since 2009 Dems lost over 1000 seats at the Fed/State level, both houses of Congress and the WH. Rs control a huge majority of Governorships and tactically the Dems only control 6 coastal states. So much for polls and being popular.

          • DrEvil007
            DrEvil007 says:

            Obama is the lone exception which proves the rule that the voting public is rejecting the Democrats at historic records.

          • johnleehooker
            johnleehooker says:

            IN fact, a more accurate term would be POLING, as in the dems/libs/progs got POLED…and it still hurts.

          • bfplncc
            bfplncc says:

            they were all wrong on Nov 8, 2016 and you are now living the results of those “Are they all wrong”.
            Hmmm.
            Go back and read the article, even the polling outfits haven’t changed their approach; like the Dems and Never-Trumpers.

          • DrEvil007
            DrEvil007 says:

            Which puts him double that of Congress, mainly because of Democratic shenanigans, and about 5 times that of the mass media, mainly because they are the propaganda wing of the Democrats. Not a single Democrat supports him, not because of anything he says or does but because of the (R) next to his name so 42% support is actually pretty good.

        • nowaybigguy
          nowaybigguy says:

          You made a lot from PredictIt.org – I made a lot by buying SPXL 2 days after his election – levered S&P 500 – up 44%.

        • sotto voce
          sotto voce says:

          You’re probably right about fiduciary restrictions for pollsters, but that would rob us plebs of the wonderful sport of witnessing their stunned reactions when their carefully manufactured lies fall apart.

          Pollsters are afflicted with the same arrogance as the media … both groups have come to see their rolls as influencing the electorate instead of faithfully reflecting it. Their spectacular failure over Trump, resulting in their shock and disbelief on election night, was a thing of beauty that many of us will never forget. They thought they were deluding us, but they wound up deluding themselves.

          • Dan Warren
            Dan Warren says:

            Yep, how delicious was that.

            The Left has had everything their way for a generation or longer….and now comes along Trump and bich slaps them…it is wonderful…and the American People know it , too.

            The polls are for sure lying about his popularity. I here a number of people stating that they are just as supportive of Trump as they were pre election, and many who were doubtful of him but voted for him, are now warming up significantly to him….and many interviews of people on conservative radio by callers report the same phenomenon.

            I always figured the American People would wake up to what the Left is about….and the election of president Trump, I sense, is the tipping point.

            What does the Leftist Movement have in Common with Islamic Jihad?

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        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          May well be, but people with my kind of taste and judgement now rule. You can make it easy on yourselves, and you’ll hardly notice anything. But if you and your kind keep pushing, well then, discipline will be enforced. I can almost feel your pain, loser.

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          Rigidly authoritarian and, when younger, a master of details. Read up on Stalin, fascinating character from a distance.

    • R J Ault
      R J Ault says:

      The only thing “Professor” (Check out Hillsdale “College”) Hanson nailed his that he has exposed himself as an apologist for a racist thug who is subverting American democracy every day.

      • Iain MacAllester
        Iain MacAllester says:

        YOU are the reason Trump was elected and will be re-elected.

        So, keep up the ignorant name calling. You should also go out a riot, maybe shoot a few more cops.

        • marineson
          marineson says:

          R J Ault just doesn’t get it. Even if I agreed with the left I would not put up with burning police cars and clubbing innocent people. I live in California and saw BLM close freeways keeping people from getting home from work. Burning cars and broken windows in Oakland and Berkley. People attacked at a San Jose Trump rally. I would never vote for more of that! I’m in my fifties and have never seen a KKK member anywhere in person but I have seen a lot of hoodie wearing thugs.

      • Lance Sjogren
        Lance Sjogren says:

        When you engage in rhetoric that is ludicrous on its face, nobody will take you seriously except your fellow Marxists.

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          Ault can not be reached with rational arguments. However, he and his kind can be trained to keep their mouths shut, at first in public. He, and his kind, will flee to The Hill, Huffington Compost, and the like, kind of like a quarantine.

      • marineson
        marineson says:

        Do you call everyone not in full agreement with you racist? Hanson is not an apologist he deals in facts, you should try it sometime.

      • JJS_FLA
        JJS_FLA says:

        As usual, a shallow, ill-informed DEM is wrong again. Victor Davis Hansen is professor emeritus of Classics at California State University, Fresno. He has been a visiting professor of classics at Stanford University and is a fellow of the Hoover Institute at Stanford.

          • DrEvil007
            DrEvil007 says:

            Who cares? He’s right most every time even if he is registered as a Democrat. Any proof that he is registered as a Democrat?

      • jerseymark
        jerseymark says:

        You and your ilk make claims like that without providing any proof whatsoever which makes your comments less than meaningless. You think you are saying something when in fact there is no there there.

      • deplorable jmarie
        deplorable jmarie says:

        How is Trump subverting American democracy? I really am interested in how you think this is happening. Please share.

        • R J Ault
          R J Ault says:

          I have pretty much discontinued commenting on this thread because there appear to be some really unhinged lunatics posting. You, however, asked a fair question and I will attempt to give an answer in a respectful way which can be fairly debated. I firmly believe Trump and his puppetmaster Bannon are subverting American democracy in the way that all wannabe strongmen/dictators do. There are three components to their attack. (1) All potential dictators need an enemy. Hitler had the Jews. Trump has the undocumented. (2) all potential dictators attack the free press – This is fairly self evident, (3) But the most important thing is that potential dictators attack the legitimacy of the electoral process itself. Hitler had his Brownshirts intimidating all non-Nazis until he came to power in 1933. While our institutions are stronger than this Trump has launched his attack on the electoral process by his utterly unsupported claims about voter fraud, and his alleged voter integrity commission. This all adds up to a classic fascist attack on democratic institutions. Now, if you just want to call me a commie a**shole, save your time. I’ve been called all that this morning. If you want to have a spirited debate in the American tradition it would be fun!

          • deplorable jmarie
            deplorable jmarie says:

            Thanks for your response. First of all, I believe that Trump sees undocumented immigrants not as a personal enemy, but as an enemy of the American citizens whose jobs and tax dollars they are taking, and of the rule of law. You can disagree of course, but the basic assumption I have about Trump is that he is approaching the presidency as doing what’s best for American citizens, and using that matrix, he will put the welfare of undocumented immigrants behind that of citizens. That doesn’t subvert democracy in any way.

            Second, attacking CNN and other legacy media outlets, in my opinion, has been a defensive rather than an offensive move. I read news from all outlets and the differences are staggering. There is a large amount of misinformation printed and televised by CNN, etc. It’s indisputable, as the fact checker have shown. Historically, if a major news outlet unfairly criticized a republican lawmaker or candidate, they would quietly resign in shame. Those days are over with Trump, who is fighting back. Love it or hate it, that new dynamic is terrifying to media outlets. Unfortunately, they’ve done it to themselves. If they’d been fair and accurate, they wouldn’t be in this position. If they are truthful, they will be left alone. This is not an attack on democracy, this is Trump exercising HIS right to free speech.

            Regarding number three. We can’t have it both ways. We can’t scream that the election was hacked and then balk at a commission to find fraud. Jill Stein’s effort revealed inconsistencies and issues but was halted by the courts. Judicial Watch reports 11 counties in CA that have more registered voters than citizens of voting age. A James Madison college student was convicted of registering 18 dead voters in VA. Sure, these are just a few instances, but there are many more across the country. The only way you can deny that Trump is attempting to solve the problems with his commission to consider Trump corrupt and illegitimate to begin with. Ask yourself if you would be this suspicious if Obama had a similar commission and perhaps it will reveal that your concerns are perhaps overblown. Once again, this is not an attack on democracy but an attempt to ensure democracy by ensure our voting is fair to all involved.

          • R J Ault
            R J Ault says:

            We are on opposite sides of the political divide, but your response to me is reasoned and certainly worthy of close attention. Probably the thing I have the most problem with is your ready acceptance of Trump’s attack on the free press. You see it as fighting back; I see it as an existential threat to press freedom. We are both reasonable loyal Americans and we just see the world in drastically different ways. But in the end, that’s what makes this country great. Neither of us have to fear “a knock on the door in the middle of the night.” I certainly wish you all the best

          • deplorable jmarie
            deplorable jmarie says:

            I think that free press comes with the responsibility to try to be accurate, and many outlets are failing at that and getting called out by a president exercising his first amendment rights. If he were shutting down the outlets, I would be the first to criticize him.

            Thanks for playing! I wish you the best as well.

          • Peter63
            Peter63 says:

            When the press has become almost entirely a propagandist outlet for the so-called ‘liberal, progressive’ (massive misnomers) worldview and when it sees as its first-priority task to take out a sitting president because he does do not fit in with that view, how is it free?

            I followed the news coverage of the last General Election closely from early in 2015 and really I could not get much of a cigarette-paper between the behavior of the media and that of radio and newspapers in Goebbels’s Berlin or Tass, Izvestia and Pravda in the Soviet Union.

            Real Journalism has died in our time. It used to be the case that journalists – a majority – were indeed ‘liberal’ in their personal affections and affiliations but to a considerable degree they were also professional at work. They researched what was happening in their country and in the world. They read books, especially history books. They were educated people. [Ben Rhodes, President Obama’s right hand man declared, in the NY Times magazine May 5 2016 that the journalists who lobbied the White House for stories were hopelessly ignorant – and credulous.] They attempted to tell people what was happening – that was their first priority – and then to publish comment on it from various different angles and viewpoints.

            Little of that is now the case; still less do they perform their noblest function, that of ‘talking truth to power.’ If they had done any of THAT these past 10 years, we would not have seen an endless sycophantic adulation of Barack Obama from the moment he became a candidate for the presidency (it is still ongoing); they would have challenged his administration with its many misdeeds and missteps; press conferences with him would not have been collective acts of worship interspersed with softball questions.

            Now we get the self-same conduct exactly in reverse. And so very many of the ‘facts’ they cite against President Trump – who has been fairly and squarely elected – are simply whopping untruths, wishful thinking, like their opinion polling.

            Read in the archives of history the Nazi newspaper of record, the Völkischer Beobachter, and then ask if in your opinion it was any more prejudiced or politically partisan than the US media has been these past 10 years. 1939-41 the Beobachter would regularly report that German forces had sunk x thousand tons of British shipping. After a while, people who were interested in matters maritime and knew their gazettes (like Jane’s Shipping) worked out that that meant Germany had destroyed thrice as much British shipping as existed. Very reminiscent of the ‘facts’ with which the press now assail President Trump and his administration.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Well said and unfortunately all too true. Regardless of one’s political leanings, the mainstream media has become the enemy of the American people. They’re deliberately pushing a very biased agenda while burying the truth, and they’re in bed with the “liberal”/progressive/Democrat/socialist leadership and adamantly opposed to anyone else. All of this does massive harm to everyone in this nation (well, except those leftist leaders!), and to our democracy and this nation. It’s exactly as you note with the press in the U.S.S.R., and so on.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            “Neither of us have to fear “a knock on the door in the middle of the night.””

            Unfortunately in recent years that hasn’t been true for some conservatives in some parts of the nation. See the article below about the unconstitutional home invasions by the Wisconsin police against conservatives. Not only were battering rams and no knock warrants used, at the end they were warned of severe legal consequences if they told ANYONE it had even occurred. Also, remember how the Obama administration weaponized the IRS and other federal departments to attack conservatives…

            Here’s a start for you with regard to what went on in Wisconsin – you can find plenty of other articles about it yourself, but this should be enough to get your started anyhow:

            Wisconsin’s Shame: ‘I Thought It Was a Home Invasion’

          • DrEvil007
            DrEvil007 says:

            Obama spied on the press. Illegally for years. And was caught. And the left and the media, same thing , basically yawned.

          • mw006
            mw006 says:

            Let’s take point (1). Comparing opposition to massive illegal immigration and the flouting of the rule of law to the extermination of millions of Jews is absurd. Try this thought experiment. There are tens of millions of Americans who are not deplorables or bigots who want a stop to massive illegal immigration because on balance they don’t think it is a good thing for the country, especially the working class. Point (2) The liberal press in this country, with few exceptions, have been out to get Trump. That’s there agenda. It’s a joke. They don’t even pretend otherwise. So what that he verbally attacks them? What concrete steps has he or administration done to actually repress or constrain them? Nada. Point (3). There are reputable studies suggesting that voter Fraud is substantial enough to be able to tip important races. What you call attacking the electoral process I call ensuring its integrity. What are you afraid of? If they find little or no fraud, then its a political loser for him and his administration and the matter is laid to rest.

          • RFL
            RFL says:

            You say in Point (2) What concrete steps has Trump done to actually repress or constrain the press? Here is my answer. Trump still has Jim Acosta from CNN on the front row and allows him a question at nearly every White House press conference. A man that Trump KNOWS will try to drag him down. Trump not only doesn’t repress or constrain the press, he actually ENCOURAGES them to do battle with him.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            You toss out that Trump is “a racist thug who is subverting American democracy every day” and then turn around and claim that other people are lunatics? That’s rich. You’ve got a really bad case of psychological projection going there. Apparently you’ve also been oblivious to how incredibly biased, unfair, and even outright dishonest the mainstream media has consistently been about Trump. And I say that as someone who didn’t support Trump in the primaries and sees him as a very flawed character (tho still vastly preferable to Hillary or Sanders, etc.).

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            “Utterly unsupported claims” about voter fraud?

            Some of the following are voter registration fraud, some actual voter fraud, some a combination (legally all are voter fraud) – and this is a very incomplete list, just the stuff I’ve run across over the last several years without going looking for it:

            July 15, 2017: More than 3,000 Colorado voters withdrew their registrations in the days since the Trump administration’s election integrity commission requested available voter information from the states. Dem leaders predictably scream “voter suppression” although the majority were likely illegal voters.

            July 8, 2017: Hundreds of voter registrations withdrawn in Colorado after state signals compliance with Trump election commission. Maybe thousands, likely almost all illegal aliens.

            June 24, 2017. This IBD article includes research covering the 2008, 2012, and 2016 elections (and any inbetween): Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way Some of the same research is in the links below too, but this one has links to several of them in the one article.

            June 2017: Recalculations of illegal votes by noncitizens puts number closer to Trump’s

            A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

            As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House. [emphasis added]

            Aug. 10, 2017: Hard Time Coming for Democrat Who Registered The Dead to Vote in VA Convicted and sentenced to jail time plus other consequences.

            July 15, 2017: Previously Deported Nigerian Pleads Guilty To Ripping Off The US For $12 Million – pleads guilty to multiple counts of voter fraud (including in the 2012 and 2016 elections), identity theft, and other crimes.

            June 2017: Rhode Island Discovers 150,000 Voters Erroneously On Rolls. That’s roughly 20% of all their registered voters!

            June 2017: Student Sentenced To Prison For Registering Dead People To Vote working for Democratic Party in Virginia.

            Aug. 2016: Voter Fraud Battles Heat Up in Sudden Swing State of Georgia

            Nov. 2011: 12 democrat officials charged with voter fraud in Georgia election

            2014: 11 counties suspect voter fraud associated primarily with a Democrat group “New Georgia Voter.”

            Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote It was confirmed that a number of non-citizens who registered to vote this way did in fact vote in the 2016 presidential and major elections.

            Texas womansentenced by jury to 8 years in prison for voting illegally multiple times. Note, she was offered two years probation, and REFUSED it, so it went to trial. The judge and prosecutors never asked for a particular sentence either – the jurors, which included 10 women, were told to do what they thought was best/fair on sentencing – they gave her 8 years. By law, passed long before Trump was even a candidate, she could have gotten up to 20 years in prison. Yet a WaPo tear jerker appeal to emotion article utterly fails to mention any of this.

            Apr 2017: 42 Dead Or Incarcerated People Voted In Single County in Florida Elections and determined who won the sheriff position.

            Feb. 2017: Hundreds Of Non-Citizens Registered to Vote In Ohio, Investigation Finds

            Iowa woman charged with voting twice for Trump pleads guilty

            Feb. 2017: McAuliffe Vetoes Bill to Investigate Virginia Voter Rolls With More Registered Than Eligible Voters More than 1,000 people in eight Virginia counties illegally registered to vote, report finds Many of them had voted previously, some multiple times, in a very limited sample size.

            May 2016: CBS2 Investigation Uncovers [Hundreds of] Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year in Southern California alone, primarily LA.

            Pew study: 1 in 8 voter records flawed

            Early article on ACORN voter registration fraud (before lawsuit convictions) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1667

            Just google (without the quotes): “ACORN convicted voter registration fraud” and you’ll get a huge number of relevant returns.

            Over 40,000 People Are Registered to Vote in Both Virginia and Maryland

            Dead people voting

            Report points to possible voter fraud in NC

            Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

            Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters

            See the Letter the DOJ Sent to Florida Demanding It Stop Purging Non-Citizens from Voter Rolls

            Florida refuses to halt voter registration cleanup

            Judge Sides With Florida on Purging Voter Rolls

            Previously deported criminal alien pleads guilty to voter fraud, illegal reentry and falsely claiming US citizenship

            SAN DIEGO – A previously deported criminal alien pleaded guilty Thursday in federal court to illegally voting in the 2008 presidential election using the name of a U.S. citizen whose identity he assumed more than two decades ago.
            Ricardo Lopez-Munguia, 45, of Escondido, pleaded guilty to three felony counts of voter fraud, making a false claim to U.S. citizenship and illegal reentry after deportation. The charges are the result of a probe by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

            Voter Fraud: We’ve Got Proof It’s Easy Undercover agents were able to vote as dead people, but election officials are attacking the agents 61 of 63 attempts by undercover agents to vote as a dead person allowed (no vote was actually cast by these people).

            ACORN’s Poster Boy Convicted of voter fraud – also registered NINE times by ACORN.

            Could non-citizens decide the November [2014] election?

            …How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010….

            Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin….

            The study also found that about 25% of those would be stopped if voter ID were required, which would at least be a start on fixing the problem. They also found the more educated non-citizens were less likely to vote, so public information drives telling people that non-citizens cannot legally vote may help significantly too.

            From the authors of the above study: Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? A reply to our critics.

          • bfplncc
            bfplncc says:

            R J, mw006 comments were right on. I’d like to add a couple thoughts:
            (2) free press has not been a fair press; big difference. As of now there has been no surveillance, subpoenas, or jailing of the press as there were during Obama (James Rosen).
            (3) The fascist attack on our democratic institution is happening now, but by those screaming collusion, impeachment, 25th Amendment, Antifa attacking free speech, local govt allowing riots/mayhem against people they disagree with. Raising concerns about vote integrity, when in fact some folks have been sentenced for some voter fraud.

      • rwisrael
        rwisrael says:

        Gee, I guess you forgot about Stanford and the University of California. Nice technique, lying by omission. Points to you, that’s a nine on the Bill Clinton scale.

          • Shore111
            Shore111 says:

            Why thank you. One does what one can. :) ….. now let’s work together to find common ground. My center left and center right friends are tired of being disappointed by our politicians with their fancy words while being told to accept mediocrity in govt. Where did all the pragmatists go?

          • R J Ault
            R J Ault says:

            I’m afraid moderation has gone out of style in America, and that is not going to serve us in the long run. I dislike Bernie Bros as much as I do Trumpkins. This country became great because until the last fifteen years there was almost a universal acceptance of a moderate political consensus. This unfortunately has broken down. As a progressive I tend to blame Fox news for the beginnings of this; responsible conservatives will blame someone else. In the end our governing consensus has been lost and we see the rise of dangerous extremists on both sides. On this thread, for example, there is some lunatic literally threatening physical violence to those who displease him. This is not in the spirit of American political discourse. It is the language of fascism. You and I, Shore111, probably don’t agree on much, but we both are loyal Americans

          • Micha_Elyi
            Micha_Elyi says:

            This country became great because until the last fifteen years Clintons lied their way into the White House 25 years ago…

            Fixed it for you.

          • Shore111
            Shore111 says:

            Thank you for your kind words. Keep your eyes and ears open, you may get a chance to make a conservative listen.

      • Chantal0007
        Chantal0007 says:

        The people who want to remove a duly-elected President are the ones subverting American democracy every day.

      • Chantal0007
        Chantal0007 says:

        Why do you put Professor in quotes? Hanson is a retired professor. And Hillsdale College is a college.

        • R J Ault
          R J Ault says:

          Hillsdale’s President recently referred to minority students as “Dark Ones,” hence the quotations.

      • Rational_Db8
        Rational_Db8 says:

        I’m sorry, sir/ma’am/it, but there is a problem with your platinum issue Race Card®.

        It’s been declined (along with the rest of your garbage), and is badly overdrawn.

        Perhaps you could actually try to formulate a relevant argument instead.

        Now grow up and actually try to make an argument.

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      • bfplncc
        bfplncc says:

        …you’re talking about Obama who subverted American democracy by not doing anything about known Russian attempts to disrupt the elections and who also invited racist thugs (BLM) to the White House.

      • DrEvil007
        DrEvil007 says:

        “Racist” = someone beating a leftist in an argument, someone who understands economics, someone who believes in individual rights and not unique entitlements for favored groups. You have no argument so all you can do is attack Dr. Hanson and the President. That condescending, ignorant attitude is exactly why Trump was elected. Keep up the good work. I didn’t vote for President Trump but seeing how leftists like yourself meltdown everyday I’ll be certain to register as a Democrat so I can vote for him several times in the next election.

      • RFL
        RFL says:

        Ault, Here’s a news flash for you, “It Ain’t 2008 anymore.” This tiresome hurling of the race card is IGNORED. You need a new act.

    • Sean
      Sean says:

      Yes, all that except over the obstruction from Yertle, McPain, Collins, whatever-her-name in Alaska, Miss Lindsay…

    • IndependentEddie
      IndependentEddie says:

      As a fellow resident of The Peoples’ Republic of Massachusetts I’m with you most of the way. However, I’m skeptical that what I hear are Trumps tax proposals will help me. We are lower middle class by your definition and I see the changes in the tax rates as at best a wash and probably a loss. Being a Mass resident with high real estate taxes and state income taxes (deductions gone) and significant medical expenses with Medicare Part B, supplemental Medicare Plan, Medicare Part D and Long Term Care insurance which is very expensive (deductions gone), this will not be anywhere compensated by increased standard deductions. My calculations see me losing thousands. I see anybody from a high tax state that itemized deductions, especially including medical getting crushed.

      • jerseymark
        jerseymark says:

        Yeah that is a problem for those conservatives who live in socialist states like Massachusetts and California. Let’s see how it all shakes out.

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          That’s why so many of them have been fleeing to far more friendly and sane states like Texas. The problem, of course, is that the very “liberals”/progressives/Democrats/socialists who’ve ruined their own states are also fleeing to states like Texas – only they’re not bright enough to realize what caused the problem in the first place and they bring their “liberal”/Democrat voting habits with them. They’re doing their darnedest to make their new state a copy of the ones they fled.

          • IndependentEddie
            IndependentEddie says:

            That’s what happened in New Hampshire that Clinton carried. They flee Taxachusetts for the taxes but bring their politics with them. They are ‘affectionately’ referred to as Massholes by the natives.

          • Micha_Elyi
            Micha_Elyi says:

            People of “states like Texas” were the ones who migrated to California and ruined the Golden State. Cry me a river because your locust kin are now swarming to move back home to Texas.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Baloney. Let’s see you substantiate that claim. Oh, that’s right, you can’t. It’s the Dems who’ve been ruining California for several decades now, not conservatives from Texas.

      • Bobbi60
        Bobbi60 says:

        Perhaps instead of bewailing the effect that the Federal government has on your State taxes, you might work on attempting to change your state government? Or even consider the radical possibility of moving? Many others have done so. Texas, for instance, not only has less snow, but no income tax. Or if you want lower property taxes, consider this:
        States with the best property tax rates (as a percentage of property value):
        Hawaii – 0.28 percent #
        Alabama – 0.43 percent
        Louisiana – 0.51 percent
        Delaware – 0.55 percent #
        District of Columbia – 0.57 percent
        South Carolina – 0.57 percent
        West Virginia – 0.59 percent
        Wyoming – 0.61 percent*
        Colorado – 0.61 percent
        Arkansas – 0.62 percent #
        *also has no income tax
        #on the list of states with lowest income tax rates
        States with the WORST property tax rates(Massachusetts is not even here):
        Jersey – 2.38 percent
        Illinois – 2.32 percent
        New Hampshire – 2.15 percent
        Connecticut – 1.98 percent
        Wisconsin – 1.96 percent*
        Texas – 1.90 percent
        Nebraska – 1.84 percent
        Michigan – 1.78 percent
        Vermont – 1.71 percent *
        Rhode Island – 1.67 percent *
        *also have the highest income taxes
        https://www.thebalance.com/state-income-tax-rates-3193320
        http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/taxes/T054-S003-most-tax-friendly-states-in-us/index.html
        http://247wallst.com/special-report/2017/01/26/states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-property-taxes-2/
        All this info is not to tell you what to do, but simply to remind you that there are choices. You don’t have to simply accept the situation the government tries to put you in. You are not a sheep!

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          Very true! I have to note, however, that it’s not only state taxes and property taxes – the cost of living is generally much lower in states like Texas too, allowing those on fixed income (or the same income as in the blue states) a far higher standard of living on the funds they have available.

        • FeministRnc ProchoiceRnc
          FeministRnc ProchoiceRnc says:

          Yeah, that was my 1st thought when reading Independent Eddie’s plight in MA. There are 49 other states—-and MANY of them will not tax you into lower middle class. In fact, in many states Independent Eddie, you would probably be “middle class”!

      • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
        ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

        Any disruption to the tax code is a good thing. You are stuck in a deep blue state. Wait a couple of years/decades and things will get better.

    • MMA_Miami Rocks
      MMA_Miami Rocks says:

      I was (and am) a Ted Cruz supporter. I did not vote for Trump (or Hillary) but I have done everything I could to compliment President Trump whenever I agree with his actions (most of the time). I am a veteran and patriot first.

      I am not for taking Trump down or preventing his reelection. I hope he does well. If so, I will absolutely consider supporting him and enthusiastically.

      Frankly, while I understand the concern about Repubs who did not support Trump in November, I do not believe that this article is helpful.

      • MMinLamesa
        MMinLamesa says:

        I too was for Cruz until his two faced nature was slowly revealed. I guess you were with him when he went to the border and welcomed ILLEGAL ALIENS breaking our immigration laws with teddy bears & soccer balls?

        And when he was for the additional 500,000 H1-B visas before he was (caught) and against them?

        Or his campaign loan from G/S which he-oops!- forgot to declare, then said it was totally above board before recently admitting it wasn’t?

        Sent out the press release saying Ben Carson had dropped out?

        Need I continue cause I’ve got lots more?

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          Better Cruz than the Hillary thing I said, but I knew that he wouldn’t gain national traction and wouldn’t win. So, I despaired. I didn’t understand what Trump was doing. In retrospect, I see that he had to wade through 16 other candidates who would have lost to the Hillary thing. It got rough. So what.

          • MMinLamesa
            MMinLamesa says:

            The difference was MiamiRocks didn’t vote for Trump which in essence was a vote for Hillary and I would have the same frigging thing I’ve done since 1988 and voted for Cruz.

          • redmanrt
            redmanrt says:

            I held my nose and voted for McCain. I couldn’t vote for fake Romney and wrote in Rick Perry. This time I would have voted for Cruz had he been nominated.

          • Cozette
            Cozette says:

            It astonishes me how many so called Constitutional Conservatives support a presidential candidate who is Constitutionally ineligible to ever be POTUS.

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          Oh please. Cruz didn’t “welcome” any illegal aliens. He merely showed some compassion for CHILDREN who were in detention centers. How people like you can sit there and make out that there’s something wrong with giving confined kids like that a teddy bear is beyond me. WHILE he was there, including before and after, he’s continually spoken out very strongly about stopping illegal immigration – he’s sponsored bills for building the fence/wall and funding it, and so on. In fact even according to numbersUSA his record on fighting illegal immigration is STRONGER than Trump’s ever was. There are major problems with the rest of your claims too.

          In fact either you were NEVER actually a Cruz supporter, or you were incredibly gullible and fell for absurd media and Trump lies about Cruz.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Yep, that or fall for the mainstream media’s hogwash, whether from evening news or online outlets. Such a shame, but all too common. Especially with the gross dishonesty and bias so very rampant in the mainstream media.

          • MMinLamesa
            MMinLamesa says:

            Sure pal. Reminds of that old saying, who ya gonna believe, you or my lying eyes?

            I note you seemed to have forgotten to address a few other points I made.

            And then the old REgressive tactic of making me accountable for what you deem likely. In fact I was an early supporter of Cruz after hearing him on Levine when he was at 4% against Dewhurst. I sent him money numerous times and was quite happy when he won the primary.

            However unlike you, because of the stories and lies he told, I had to withdraw my support. I guess that didn’t matter to you. I still would have voted for him in the general having had to hold my nose for the last almost 30 years, so nothing new there from the Rs.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Your “lying eyes” never saw what you’re claiming, that’s the problem. What’s the point in tearing apart your other claims when they’re all just as flawed? It won’t make one bit of difference to you, clearly. Nor did I in any way “make you responsible” for something I deemed likely. So if you didn’t support Cruz supposedly because of his “lies” who did you support? Trump lied VASTLY more than Cruz and about Cruz time and again too. Of course lying matters to me – your “guess” is dead wrong. But I don’t accuse people of lying when the facts show otherwise, unlike you.

          • bfplncc
            bfplncc says:

            I was initially a Cruz supporter, but the incident that caused me to bail on him was his blaming the violence in Chicago rally on DJT, as did Rubio, Kasick, Bush, Fiorina, etc.
            That was typical lib/prog BS and it flipped me.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Cruz didn’t blame Trump for violence in any Chicago rally – not if you actually read or listened to his full statement. And I’ve got to say that even if he had, it wouldn’t make much sense to abandon the far better candidate for a worse one over a single relatively unimportant issue like that. Especially when Trump outright lied about Cruz over and over and over again.

          • Cozette
            Cozette says:

            Boy have you been snowed about Cruz. Did you know outsider Cruz’s campaign was supported by donations from Swamp Rat McConnell from the beginning? He was picked by the Bush team of globalists to splinter off votes from any genuine outsiders that ran in the primary. President Trump never lied about Ted but Ted sure lied about him. Thankfully the President is magnanimous but no one who’s educated believes Ted’s support is anything but self serving.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Oh please. Even if you’re right that McConnell supported him, that’s utterly meaningless. Adolf Hitler could choose to send contributions to someone and it wouldn’t make that person a Nazi. What’s more, Cruz’s voting record proves beyond doubt that he’s no D.C. swamp establishment type – he’s been very consistently one of if not the most fiscal and Constitutional conservative in the Senate every year. The bills he’s written and sponsored prove the same. PROVE that the “Bush team” had anything to do with picking Cruz. Oh, that’s right, you can’t – the claim makes ZERO sense, because if it were true, once he started doing better than Bush – which was right off the bat, they’d have made him withdraw.

            “President Trump never lied about Ted but Ted sure lied about him.”

            So you’re grossly ignorant of the facts and have fallen hook, line, and sinker for Trump’s lies about Cruz. Which is particularly funny, since Trump even flipped his claims entirely multiple times. “Cruz isn’t even an American Citizen!” “I might select Cruz to be my VP.” ROFL! And you fell for it!! Cruz never lied about Trump at all – But Trump sure lied claiming he had. Plenty of times.

          • redmanrt
            redmanrt says:

            Cruz couldn’t win because he could not galvanize the people all across the country the way Trump did. Trump didn’t galvanize me, because I’m immune to that sort of thing. But he’s our president now, and he has fulfilled some essential promises (for ex. Neil Gorsuch), and I will fight for him and against the would-be dictators if necessary.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Trump got about 40% of the primary votes – less than that before Cruz dropped out. The only reason he won was because the field was so massively split – and because he lied like mad about his competitors. Nor was Trump the only one who had really large rallies – Cruz did also.

            Regardless, Trump’s still far preferable to Hillary or Sanders – at least with him there’s a chance where we KNOW they’d be driving this nation further into the sewer. And, as you say and I agree, he’s president now. I judge him on his actions and give credit where credit is due, and fight back against those attacking him falsely or for no reason. I also criticize him where he deserves it. Gorsuch was a very good start. A number of his other actions – for example rolling back so many asinine overboard Obama admin. regulations, withdrawing from the Paris accords, allowing both Keystone and Dakota pipelines, etc. also very good starts. He’s also unfortunately done a fine job of shooting himself in the foot quite a few times, handing ammunition to the “liberal” mainstream media and other anti-Trumpers in ways that could have been VERY easily avoided, along with making a few very bad hiring choices plus a number of very good ones.

        • MMA_Miami Rocks
          MMA_Miami Rocks says:

          Go FUUUUUCK yourself lying P0S.

          You and the four cowards who upvoted you.

          I do remember when the man Cruz beat the Shiite outta Tiny Hands in Iowa and the cowardly stunt that Trump/Carson pulled. Criminal.

        • MMA_Miami Rocks
          MMA_Miami Rocks says:

          I believe that you need some Pepto Bismo. You have diarrhea of the mouth.

          Trump never gave me Shiite miss.

      • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
        ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

        Cruz conservatism is dead. During the Obama years, the educated right has proven to be nearly useless. Trump has done much to advance freedom than Cruz, Levin, and the rest of the NRO crowd.

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          Trump was able to accomplish what he did in very large part BECAUSE of the efforts of those very people to point out the massive liberal press bias and lies, the horrific problem with “political correctness,” and the benefits of fiscal and Constitutional conservatism. If they hadn’t very publicly and forcefully done the hard work of lying that groundwork for years, Trump wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. He rode their coattails and then pretended he designed and created the suit.

          • RFL
            RFL says:

            Trump was and is necessary to the cause. No-one remembers that people like Little Richard began playing rock and roll before Elvis. Your comment is 100% correct, but Trump was necessary. I voted for Cruz in the primary, but I realized later that the Trump voters had it right. When Trump started with the Lying Ted bit, Ted Cruz did not respond. This IS what doomed him. People realized that if he didn’t fight back like a street fighter, he was not the right guy to fight back against the lying Dems and media establishment. I believe that this was the tipping point in which Trump secured the nomination over Cruz.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            “No-one remembers that people like Little Richard began playing rock and roll before Elvis.”

            ROFLMAO!! Way to prove yourself wrong. YOU just remembered, it – as do many many other people.

            “When Trump started with the Lying Ted bit, Ted Cruz did not respond.

            Well, that’s some vastly selective memory you’ve got going there. Cruz DID respond, quite clearly.

          • Cozette
            Cozette says:

            President Trump pretended no such thing. And he rode no ones coattails. He’s been advocating for his platform since the 1980s. Many people played a part in laying the ground work for his win but no one else in either party had his vision and charisma and skill set that allowed him to win. No one.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Good lord. Learn some actual facts, and stop falling for Trump’s lies. It’s pathetic. Trump hasn’t been “advocating for his platform since the 1980’s.” He’s flip flopped during that time on multiple subjects, not to mention changed his party affiliation from Dem to Rep to Reform Party, etc. Trump’s “vision” was in large part lies – he sat there claiming he stood for xyz at such and such a time, only for publicly recorded video of him himself, or interview quotes, from those very times proving he stood for no such thing.

          • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
            ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

            The Right has known and lived with media bias since the mid 1930’s, and with political correctness since the late 1980’s. It took nearly 40 years for a man to say state the obvious: illegals from Mejico are rapists and drug dealers, we need a wall on the Southern border, NAFTA is a job killer, and US energy needs to be unleashed.

            In all of these years, no one, not Bush 41 or 43 or the GOP Congresses has ever done anything to effect changes. In fact, Bush 43 said America had an oil addiction.

            Now that Trump has established the playing field, I’m supposed to credit those who pointed out the obvious, but never had the guts to make any changes? I’ll let you heap praised on those weaklings. I’ll keep voting for Trump, and voting against any “freedom” caucus member.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            Oh please. Cruz was battling illegal immigration and fighting for far greater border control and fence/wall LONG before Trump said squat about it. Then Trump comes out and proclaims time and again that Trump’s the ONLY ONE who ever has. Which is a massive lie.

            NAFTA has both lost jobs and created them in the USA, and whether overall it’s a good or bad thing for the USA is very much in question and depends a lot on what particular study or source you look at. In general, Trump is way off base about trade.

            Nor is Trump even REMOTELY the first or only one to say that American energy needs to be unleashed.

            “In all of these years, no one, not Bush 41 or 43 or the GOP Congresses has ever done anything to effect changes.”

            That’s a grossly ignorant and patently false statement. Reams of “changes” have been effected over the last few decades, as anyone who’s lived through them knows full well. Many of those changes going in exactly the wrong direction, but some in the right direction too. Bush pushed very hard for many years for new domestic oil drilling, his one comment not withstanding. Clinton was dragged kicking and screaming back to the middle by Newt Gingrich and Republicans in Congress and some significant progress was made by Congressional Republicans during those years. Reagan was also incredibly effective.

            There’ve been plenty of other things done which effected changes. It’s just not been enough to stop the slide of the nation to the left – and you can thank the leftist voters who vote in absurd people like Reid, Pelosi, Franks, Waters, etc., and even some on the right or center who’ve saddled the nation with people like McCain.

            “Now that Trump has established the playing field, I’m supposed to credit
            those who pointed out the obvious, but never had the guts to make any
            changes?”

            No, you’re supposed to join reality and fact based opinions, rather than making false stuff up.

          • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
            ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

            Cruz and Tancredo and Pete Wilson, all good men, were talking about it, but was anything done about it? Funding for the wall actually was appropriated in the early 2000’s. Nothing was ever done and no wall, except for certain sections, were completed. As Trump said, all talk, and no action.

          • Rational_Db8
            Rational_Db8 says:

            “Except for certain sections” IS doing something and completing part of the wall. What’s more, Cruz and others as you note, plus Mike Lee, Gowdy, etc., can’t make Congress do what they want when there are overwhelming number of Dems and estab. Repubs arrayed against them. That doesn’t mean they haven’t been pushing hard for it, talking about it, submitting applicable bills, etc. That’s NOT “all talk, no action” – in fact it’s quite a lot of action on their part, so lay the blame where it belongs – on the Dems and globalists who were fighting against them and had greater numbers. Which means, ultimately, the blame is with the electorate, not those elected. After all, it’s the electorate who’s kept the likes of Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters, etc., in office for many many years or even decades. Trump obviously cannot do anything by himself either – and he sure as heck hadn’t done a fraction towards those things when he was campaigning compared to Cruz and others. Not to mention the irony of Trump’s “all talk, no action” – because where was TRUMP all those years, where was HIS action in helping get these things done? He was scr3wing average Americans out of their life savings to add to his already bloated pocketbook, and didn’t do jack to further any of those causes that he now reams those who WERE taking action and trying when he’s never done jack himself.

            All that said, and I’m still incredibly relieved that we got him and not Hillary or Bernie who would have almost certainly been vastly worse. Hopefully Trump will keep actually taking steps in the right direction – every bit of which I’ll give him full credit for and praise him – and stop shooting himself in the foot so blasted often. The former I suspect will happen – the latter, I bet won’t, unfortunately. A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots after all, and Trump is Trump, warts and all.

        • RFL
          RFL says:

          I was and remain a big Ted Cruz supporter. He threw a tantrum at the Republican convention, but you can’t hardly blame him. Trump effectively branded him as Lying Ted when in fact he is not that at all. Where I admire Cruz is that he has worked extremely hard in the Senate to support Trump’s agenda. He has not taken media bait on a single occasion to attack Trump as have Ryan and McCain. The election of Trump has done an amazing thing. It has separated the true conservatives from the fake ones. Cruz and Mark Levin are in the true crowd. Both are defending Trump vigorously. This should be admired.

          • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
            ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

            RFL is spot on. I take back my criticism of Cruz. Levin, on the other hand, I’m not sure about that old wolf.

        • MMA_Miami Rocks
          MMA_Miami Rocks says:

          YOU are totally full of Shitte miss. Way to brag about your lack of education, precious. You go girl.

          Keep this up and Trump will never win reelection, stupid (including the cowards who upvoted you).

          • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
            ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

            Never Trumper still mentally masturbating. Bill Krystol/NRO/Levin NeverTrumpers had nothing to show during the Obama years, and is currently being shown to be absolutely worthelss, or perhaps, as Conservative Leader McConnell would say, it’s “unrealistic expectations.”

            I’ll let Trump do the work and take the arrows, while freedom is advance. I’ll keep laughing at the morons like MMA-Miami Rocks (?) write about “Trump will never win reelection).

    • 1952rmdg
      1952rmdg says:

      Yes, news reports I’ve read say that Black unemployment is falling – what better way to improve the lives of Black Americans than to ensure that they benefit economically from the Trump agenda. BTW, as unemployment drops, so will crime and other types of social dysfunction like broken marriages.

      • Helix adastra
        Helix adastra says:

        You think crime and broken marriages are due to not having a job? Decades of breaking up families through cultural ideology eg feminism, resulted in general breakdown of social cohesion and loss of a cultural core, a healthy functioning one. Jobs, and happily doing a job, are functions of a healthy cohesive society. Why have a normal job when crime can net you wealth for little effort and sometimes great wealth? You have to have a humble and cohesive sense of community identity to want to a functioning cog in it, forwarding your people’s life, nit just your own. This is what the long march through the institutions has wrought – Antifa, BLM, community chaos.

  7. Donald Schellberg
    Donald Schellberg says:

    An interesting spin, albeit somewhat strange(is clean coal really Santa Claus in disguise?)

    Anyway, regarding the polling companies like Gallup and Rasmussen, his assertion that they are skewing data in favor of a given political ideology is truly bizarre.

    I am a software engineer and algorithms are my bread and butter. Polling companies depend on their methodology to accurately gauge public opinion. If they cease to be accurate they will cease to be in business. If their polls are way off you can be sure they are reviewing and revising their mathematical models.

    If they were off last election day, they way were off in favor of Trump who was given an edge by 1 or 2 or 3 points but in reality Hillary won the popular vote by 2 percent.

    Most people that voted for the Trumpster were voting because he represented change. Now we have seen that change. Instead of a Philly cheese steak we got a shit sandwich. Don’t expect us to revisit this establishment again.

    • Mike Kujawski
      Mike Kujawski says:

      I think instead of a Philly Cheese Steak,, we got a bowl of New England Chowda. A couple of bites, you might chomp down on a piece of sand from a fresh clam and say what the heck. However, overall, after you sloppily suck that bowl down, you say that was one hell of a bowl of chowda and you go right back to ordering another one!!

    • redmanrt
      redmanrt says:

      “If they cease to be accurate they will cease to be in business.”

      You willfully ignore what the real business of most of the pollsters is – feeding the wishful thinking of lbtrd faithful. Kind of like horoscopes.

      • reality check
        reality check says:

        Nonsense. The business of pollsters is to be in business. That is, to make money. If the products they produce are not accurate, those entities that purchase them and project & plan strategies based on their accuracy will not purchase those products and the pollsters will not make money. It’s that simple for most of us but not so simple for you, is it? ‘Feeding wishful’ thinking is your business and you are getting very good at it since reality is not being kind to you guys at all.

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            I reaqd it again and your exact words ” You willfully ignore what the real business of most of the pollsters is – feeding the wishful thinking of lbtrd faithful. Kind of like horoscopes.” Well which is it, what you write, to feed wishful thinking or my words , to make money. If you want to change you mind, go right ahead but you can’t have it both ways. Oops, my bad.OF course you can have it both ways or at least you guys always try to, just like your ‘fearless leader’.

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            Actually they weren’t wrong and you guys know it. The polls you guys cite were national polls that claimed that Hillary would win by 3%. She won the popular vote by more than 2 1/2%. Those polls did not reflect individual state polls which those pollsters did not evaluate. Again people do not purchase things that they think don’t work more than once.

          • marque2
            marque2 says:

            Yeah in the last week. Just about every election the polls show Dems up 20% and then in the last month they change methods so they don’t get egg on their face.

            Hillary almost certainly wasn’t up 12% two months before or three months before the election.

        • Its_All_Baloney
          Its_All_Baloney says:

          You don’t recognize the obvious logical disconnect between your assertions?

          “The business of pollsters is to be in business.” Duh.

          “If the products they purchase are not accurate ….” No. Absolutely wrong, because your conclusion is riddled with unstated, unsupported, and provably false assumptions.

          Political campaigns don’t craft their policies around big name pollsters. They use private, in house pollsters, and the results they derive are often closely guarded secrets. Big name pollster results are used to guage talking points, not outcomes. But more often, those polls become their own talking points. They are a weapon, not a measurement.

          If the pollsters want to remain in business, they’ll ensure that their product provides the paying customers with the weapons they’re paying for.

          And speaking of an unkind reality, how about the reality that Dems have lost the states, lost both houses of Congress, lost the White House, but still claim that the majority of the voters are on their side?

          How’s that reality working out for ya?

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          It depends upon who is paying the piper. The dmthgs pay for polls the results of which are designed to influence, not reflect public opinion. This is done by various means, such as targeting the area where the polls are to be carried out, and then “weighting” the results. You, loser, are a lbtrd bllshtr.

        • marque2
          marque2 says:

          To make money you please your customer. What would WaPo like to hear about Trump’s popularity right now?

    • sky blue pearl
      sky blue pearl says:

      I’m an engineer myself, and your assessment of polling was ridiculous. Just before the election, a WaPo / ABC poll showed Hillary dropping 11 points in one week! Was that from “reviewing and revising models”? No, that was because after trying to tamp down Republican enthusiasm, and with the election drawing near, the pollsters didn’t want to get caught being off by double digits. If you really are an engineer, you have to know they were lying. And are we to believe that if WaPo /ABC and others were trying to tamp down Republican enthusiasm before the election, that all of a sudden, they have seen the error of their ways and are now reporting accurately when they show Trump at 34% approval? Yeah, my @$$ they are! I doubt you’re really an engineer. It seems you work for Soros.

      • marque2
        marque2 says:

        They generally poll to their customer’s desires until the last month of the election – which is the only time theybstrive for accuracy. I recall that was probably the ABC poll which was caught oversampling democrats by some 12% when you roughly have 34% Dems and use 45% in your polling and get caught – of course the following poll will drop.

    • wheezer
      wheezer says:

      bottom line: as the Dems move further left they will leave the swing voters in FL PA OH MI WI IA behind. Liberal idealogues are too stupid to see that.

      • irish19
        irish19 says:

        They still think they lost because they didn’t move far enough left. I’m hoping they keep thinking that, and base their actions between now and the midterms accordingly.

    • JJinCO
      JJinCO says:

      “If they were off last election day, they way were off in favor of Trump who was given an edge by 1 or 2 or 3 points but in reality Hillary won the popular vote by 2 percent.”

      I think the polls showed Hillary up by 6, then tightening to 2 or 3 … which is about where she finished on the popular vote … but her electoral victory was never in doubt until election evening (watching this never gets old):

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ46I3kMOr0

      I have seen the change. I’ll vote for Trump with greater enthusiasm in 2020 than I did in 2016. MAGA!

      • Its_All_Baloney
        Its_All_Baloney says:

        And how many times were we told “Trump has no possible path to 270!” by the same loons who now decry the electoral college as an antiquated relic from the slavery culture? Interesting, how their deeply considered, highly principled opinions change according to who won the last election.

        I went to bed Nov 8 assuming Hillary had won, because several years of daily media barrage had declared it would be so, right up to the point where the votes were counted and she lost.

        I checked the morning news on Nov 9 and learned that Hillary had lost. And I smiled, and my heart was a little lighter. Because while no one really knew what to expect from a neophyte president Trump, at least America had dodged the Ma Hillary suicide bullet. For now.

        • irish19
          irish19 says:

          I stayed up until I was certain the traitorous hag had lost, poured myself a bourbon and then went to bed.

      • JustData
        JustData says:

        In late October we were told that HRC was up by 12 and no one had ever recovered from that large of a deficit that late.
        They cut it to 6 then to 2-3 to keep people interested in the horse race plus match more closely the 3-4 point win they expected of her. Making it look close not only keeps interest high but would (they thought) allow her to “outperform” the polls which would add to her momentum going into her inaugural.
        Man oh man we dodged a bullet, or more accurately a howitzer round, last November.

    • lichau
      lichau says:

      “Software Engineer”. Hmmpf. Hillary won in LA County. If CA, which doesn’t really have a GOP, weren’t in the US, she would have lost the popular vote.

    • Jason Rogers
      Jason Rogers says:

      Sounds like your bread and butter are the real shit sandwiches.If you want any of us to believe the leftist/Zionist oligarchs don’t control and manipulate our elections,the polls and what we are for the most part allowed to think and talk about then think again tough guy.They suppress the real issues like cultural decay,mass replacement immigration and the purposeful destruction of our jobs while making sure plenty of space is given to covering homo rights,the right of any non-White on Earth to settle here and take our country,and have a pet-child instead of a real one(but adopt foreign if you must have any at all).I bet Lindsay Graham would just love to discuss your software problems over drinks though.

    • marque2
      marque2 says:

      Polling companies bread and butter is pleasing their customers. That is why polls – if they are ever accurate are only accurate close to elections. That 30 point Dem lead always seems to dissapearvthe last month. You recall the ABC poll that oversampled democrats by 12% during the last election,well before the last month?

      When it doesn’t matter polling companies are more likely to give clients what they want to hear.

  8. Standmeupatthegatesofhell
    Standmeupatthegatesofhell says:

    Very lucid analysis by Professor Hanson of the political atmosphere at this stage of the Trump administration. To me it seems impossible that the democrats will be able to mount a viable campaign against the republicans in either 2018 or 2020 for a number of reasons. Right now the socialist leftist democrats are proposing litmus tests for party membership. The most onerous test being whether one is pro life or not. Since most polls show that approximately 30% of registered democrats are pro life, the litmus test should lead to many democrats leaving for the GOP. Perhaps even more onerous than the litmus test is the leadership of the democrat party. Tom Perez was a general counsel for the racialist group LaRaza before joining the Obama Administration. In his position as chief of the civil rights division of the DOJ he initiated more investigations of law enforcement agencies that any of his predecessors while refusing to initiate any investigations against the New Black Panthers or other groups for alleged voter intimidation. Since Perez’s election to chair of the DNC he has indulged in screaming and profane hysteria against the “republicans” without putting forward any concrete plans or strategy for defeating the GOP in upcoming election cycles. Perez named Keith Ellison, the self proclaimed Muslim and anti Semitic follower of Louis Farrakhan, as his number two. With the democrat party being led by these two unabashed far left radical and racialist ideologues, many more Roosevelt/Kennedy/Jackson/Reagan democrats and Independents will be driven into the arms of the GOP.

  9. redmanrt
    redmanrt says:

    “Do Americans Really Listen to the Conservative Elite Establishment?”

    No, and that makes the puffed up establishment angry enough to commit political suicide by joining the democrat communists in trying to take Trump down or, at least render him ineffective.

    “…the shriller will be the argument that Trump’s tweets and behavior nullify solid achievement. Just watch.”

    And the itchier our trigger fingers will get. Mind you, they are already pretty itchy…

    “Obama pushed the party hard leftward ”

    Not as hard as the communist would have liked.

    “soothing liberals with his Ivy League pedigree”

    Fake pedigree.

    “Those in Ohio and Pennsylvania were not just angry for being written off as bitter clingers”

    Even now the dimthgs are still bitterly clinging to gun control. I can almost feel their fetid little pain.

    • Jenny Marie Hatch
      Jenny Marie Hatch says:

      Yes Obama was lazy and distracted.

      More interested in partying on the public dole than governing.

      I pray the whole human trafficking side to his administration is blown completely out into the open.

      Little children are still in danger.

      • Johnathan Swift Jr.
        Johnathan Swift Jr. says:

        Actually he got a lot done, all bad. He and his henchwoman Hillary Clinton destroyed Libya, unleashing tens of thousands of refugees on poor Europe. He then meddled in Syria, sending hundreds of millions of dollars worth of American arms to “moderates” which made the Civil War into one of epic proportions, unleashing hundreds of thousands of refugees on poor Europe.

        Obama sat by and watched ISIS grow into a major force, which then destabilized Iraq, resulting in the death of tens of thousands of Christians, the truly persecuted people in the Middle East, people he is hostile to and won’t invite into the United States. He pulled all United States forces from Iraq, creating the crisis that we and the Iraqis are battling there to end, at the cost of thousands of lives.

        Obama armed the drug cartels with thousands of American arms (Fast and Furious), resulting in the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans and some Americans, a crime that should have seen him impeached. He then created a fully weaponized federal government which declared their own Jihad against Republicans, targeting them though the IRS with audits, harassment and preventing the Tea Party (which was responsible for the Democrats epic 2010 losses) from formally organizing. Had the impeachment of Nixon gone ahead one count would have been simply asking the IRS to target a single person. The IRS scandal went right to the White House. He weakened privacy protections for all Americans, allowing bureaucrats to spy on their political enemies. Before he left office he and his henchmen and women cooked up the Russia hoax, then created an internal resistance to a new President for the first time in history, a slow motion civil war.

        I could go on for hours in this vein, the damage he did to race relations, his war on the police, his polices to flood the nation with criminal aliens – shipping MS-13 members across the country at taxpayer expense – to let thousands of hardened criminals out of prison so they can target the black community, hoping for a return of the crime wave of the 1970s and 1980s.

        Obama was effective, just as his henchmen Soros is, evil is often effective.

        • redmanrt
          redmanrt says:

          “Actually he got a lot done, all bad.”

          The damage he did here at home was contained and is being repaired. It the Hillary thing had been nominated in 2008, it would have completely destroyed the Republic.

    • Paul Frantizek
      Paul Frantizek says:

      Agree. And add this:

      “[The] idea that conservative populism is a temporary deviation from a winning and properly orthodox Jeb Bush conservatism is delusional.”

      I’d love to put these GOPe types on a polygraph, see if they really believe that Bush/McCain/Kasich/Ryan/McMullin style ‘conservatism’ is a winner, or if they just propose such obvious losers as a sort of Overton Window maintaining Potemkin opposition.

      • Peter63
        Peter63 says:

        Basically they get their fortunes from being Potemkin opposition. This has been true – now – for decades.

      • R J Ault
        R J Ault says:

        “Conservative Populism” is a dog whistle term for racist white nationalism, isolationism, and proto-fascist subversion of democratic institutions.

        • E. +Goldstein
          E. +Goldstein says:

          You missed one of the key words, deplorable. That PC drivel matters only to your fellow fellow leftist fools. You need more practice in Newspeak. Enjoy your 2 minute rant.

        • jerseymark
          jerseymark says:

          It is a real shame that you have no clue what the words you use mean. The only fascists in this country are those on the Left who seek to control every aspect of our lives, including what we think and speak. Fascism is a left wing ideology and just because you guys are too ignorant to see through the brainwashing the left media does to you does not make your comments any less worthless.

        • B-Dog The Man
          B-Dog The Man says:

          Oh really Rocket Scientist? Show us some proof….got examples of all this??

          NOPE…of course you don’t….you’ve been told what to believe and you took it, hook line and sinker.

        • deplorable jmarie
          deplorable jmarie says:

          Nope. You don’t get to define what is a dog whistle to anyone but yourself. That’s how dog whistles work, only dogs hear them.

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          Only according to hard leftists who haven’t a clue what it really means, and are about nothing but identity politics and slandering good decent people as racists etc. when they’re no such thing.

      • ObamaisaSCUMBAG
        ObamaisaSCUMBAG says:

        Absolutely right. The effectiveness of the Opposition is irrelevant, since it’s all for show. Being part of the Establishment is all that matters.

      • Micha_Elyi
        Micha_Elyi says:

        Let’s see. Trump failed to win a majority of the popular vote. Trump didn’t even come close to even a plurality of the popular vote, he lost it by millions, millions! In contrast, all those you mentioned who have held office, won those offices by winning the popular vote.

        Obvious losers are Trump and McMullin.

        By the way, have you walked any precincts for Trump yet?

        • Rational_Db8
          Rational_Db8 says:

          Time for you to take a decent basic civics course. Our presidents aren’t elected by the popular vote, and therefore candidates do not campaign as if they were. IF they were elected by popular vote, they’d campaign entirely differently and the results of the popular vote would be quite different than they are now. It’s not Trump’s fault that so many leftists are piled on top of each other in very limited areas of just a few states, e.g., primarily coastal cities in NY & CA. We effectively have 50 separate state elections – weighted by population. The president who wins the most of those gets the most electoral college votes and wins the presidency. The popular vote is essentially moot. Then there’s also the issue of a gross lack of election integrity in this nation – e.g., illegal voting. When you have multiple counties with more votes than registered voters, or more voters than voting age residents, in several different states, there is very clearly a problem. Particularly when so many major elections are won or lost based on a tiny number of votes.

  10. Thomas Carter
    Thomas Carter says:

    An inspiring, astute and accurate exposition of why Trump is still winning. Well done! Look at what Trump is doing, in contrast to being pathologically distracted by his Tweets and foibles.

    • Cozette
      Cozette says:

      Lots of his base love his tweets. Especially those of us who are, like President Trump, students of Sun Tzus Art of War.

  11. Jake
    Jake says:

    Finally a President who loves America and to you Mr. Victor Davis Hanson a heartfelt Thank You for beautifully written article.

    • reality check
      reality check says:

      Of course he loves America. In fact he has been demonstrating his love for his country since the 1960s when he managed 4 deferments to get himself classified 4F during the viet Nam war, and certainly during his entire 30+ years of public life when he spent millions of his own money and lots of his time promoting projects that demonstrate his love of country!? BTW, can any of you cite just ONE example of Donald demonstrating his love of America EVER? Not including the last 7 months of course. One, just one, please. Thank you. Take your time. It won’t be easy or even possible.

      • odys
        odys says:

        Yes, Al Franken also got deferments. In fact Skippy, the list of people who got deferments is a who’s who of swamp denizens.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          That was the easy part even though you deflected with your comment. Now respond to the hard part if you can. I told you it would be hard if not impossible.Will you prove me right by not responding directly,rationally and logically? Time will tell.

          • odys
            odys says:

            You try to act all the time like deferments were unusual, when they were very, very common. Now you are either ignorant of the situation or a liar, you choose. AND I suspect any example of Trump’s beneficence would be ignored by you, so why should I cast pearls before swine?

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            Simple. Because you won’t because you can’t. But then we all knew that already. If you could cite one example of Trump’s love of America you would, if only to prove that Donald did show love of country and also to prove me wrong. IF you don’t it’s only because you can’t, not because you refuse to “cast pearls before swine”, whatever that means. It’s always the last refuge of someone who has no rational response or reply, and we all know it!

          • redmanrt
            redmanrt says:

            In case your dim mind (or what passes for it) skipped over my earlier comment, I repeat and amplify – Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court is more than enough to justify his election.

            More conservative justices are in the pipeline, and your sordid “transformational” agenda is dead in the water. I can almost feel your infantile pain.

          • Name
            Name says:

            yes a lot of people got deferments but few have such a poor character as to say that the dont respect POW that they only like winners. That is not an honorable man that is a spineless coward.

          • Cozette
            Cozette says:

            If you care about facts check out Stefan Molyneauxs You Tube The Untruth About Trump for the origin of the remark and how the media turned it into a lie. It was an old Chris Rock joke aimed at John McCain who Viet Man Vets despise. Watch the video if you care about truth. It’s a fascinating expose about how the media lies.

          • Dave781
            Dave781 says:

            Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and you would say that a lot of people got parking tickets.

          • marque2
            marque2 says:

            Bill Clinton somehow avoided draft as well. So what? We were all told it was OK back then and even in the 1960s as the “party of peace” the democrats supported the draft dogers. Now all of a sudden you are all moralistic on the subject. Give us all a break, you phoney.

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            OK I’ll give you that. Now for the harder part. Name ONE specific thing Trump has done in the 30+ years of his public life that demonstrated his love for America. You won’t because you can’t. If you could have you would have by now, right?

          • marque2
            marque2 says:

            Oh goodness dude – as president he has done so much it is unbelievable, especially with reforming the VA – but before – and I have to say your question is a bit disingenuous because as normal citizens we support our country by doing our jobs and making sure we do them well. The mere fact he has built malls, and resorts is good enough for me. But some notables – he went public when David Duke actually was running for President and strongly denounced him. He warned us about the second gulf war. From a humanitarian side – he frequently flew kids who needed transplants or major surgery in his private plane for free because it was big enough to hold all the medical support equipment. He also – though remember the facts , has saved several Americans who got into bizarrenlegal troubles with foreign governments.

            Basically you just want to remain blind to what he has done.

        • Dave781
          Dave781 says:

          Deferments were perfectly legal and almost everyone who could got a deferment. The war was not very popular.

          Trump cheated and paid a doctor to declare that he was 4F. That is NOT the same thing as a deferment. So you are just deflecting.

        • jimhargreaves31
          jimhargreaves31 says:

          he remained in student status, not sure when they stopped the lottery/draft but VN started winding down once Nixon got in office—-which was Jan 1969
          and VN was winding down before that…………lbj said he would not seek reelection in March 68 I believe and after mlk and rfk were assassinated in the spring of 68 and the democratic riots at their convention in july 68 the die was cast that the US was going to get out of VN as quickly and conveniently as it could

      • old003
        old003 says:

        President Trump and his family have already given more back to America than any filthy democrap. He will put America and Her destiny back on track to greatness. You and your ilk can come along for the ride, or not. You are welcome.

        • Cozette
          Cozette says:

          I know people who took the classes and said it was with every penny. Why are you basing your reality on what were such obvious 101 campaign lies told to beat him? Are you really so politically naive? The campaign is over and it’s time to get back to being Americans working together to make things better for us all

      • reality check
        reality check says:

        One hour and not one of you can come up with just ONE example of Donald showing his love of America. Either you guys are being very lazy or in fact none of you can find just ONE example. Maybe that’s because there is not even one to submit, and donald turns out to be what we all knew, that donald cares only for himself, his brand and his bottom line. And for his country or you guys, not at all.

        • bullmoose117
          bullmoose117 says:

          They don’t care- they want a “brawler” and are willing to overlook any and all shortcomings in their “Dear Leader”

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            They would have done a lot better with Jesse Ventura. They actually ended up with a bully/coward who
            never admits mistakes. The behavior of a weak, insecure loser.

        • R J Ault
          R J Ault says:

          Solid Burn, Reality Check! Stick to your guns. We must face the fact that Trump supporters are deluded racist morons!

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            Actually the are not morons. They are just poor suckers that fell for the sweet musi.ngs of a master salesman/conman. Like those enraptured by Jim Johnson and scientology that have been swept away by blind faith and wishful thinking that donald will keep his promises (what specific promises?) , but sooner rather than later, we hope, they will come their senses and realize that Trump is little more than an expensive empty suit ( made in China).

      • NASArefugee
        NASArefugee says:

        The Viet Nam War was an irresponsible foreign policy fiasco and senseless waste of human life that was foisted upon the American populace by Lyndon Johnson, who promised during his Presidential campaign that he would not escalate the war, even as he was meeting with the military to plan its expansion. How do you explain away that?

        Two of my family died in Johnson’s folly, and when my number came up in the lottery, I flatly refused to go. I am a conservative and a patriot, but by the end of Johnson’s single (elected) term no rational person could justify our conduct of the war.

        While I genuinely honor and respect our Viet Nam Veterans (which include former classmates as well as former family), I cannot condemn anybody who conscientiously refused to surrender their life without cause. Our government failed us, and when governments fail, then community and family are all that’s left to guide our choices.

        What have you ever sacrificed, Mr. reality check? What personal choices have you ever made when there was no winning alternative, only losing alternatives?

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          Actualy I did serve in the Naval Air Corps during the viet Nam war, VP832 to be specific. I worked on P2v and P3 anti sub patrol planes. But I am not president so who cares besides you?

          • NASArefugee
            NASArefugee says:

            A lot of people care.

            Thank you for your service. But consider this: Maybe Donald Trump has a conscience. He flatly refused to ratchet up the war in Afghanistan recently, which cost him considerable political capital. What was the basis of his decision? He met with combat veterans and personnel on the ground in Afghanistan, who described to him the reality of the war and it’s human cost.

            Trump also has done some serious housecleaning at the VA, firing hundreds of non-producing employees. Just a few days ago, he signed into law the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act, which provides $2 billion for veterans to receive medical care from PRIVATE doctors and hospitals, plus another $1.8 billion for VA programs.

            Trump honors our soldiers and veterans, and more importantly, he puts his money where his mouth is in caring for them.

            As a veteran, this should matter very much to you. Are you so blinded by personal animus that you cannot even acknowledge Trump’s sincere efforts to remedy the injustice done to our veterans? Would you rather have John McCain as President because of his combat service?

      • sandslug
        sandslug says:

        Really? How about standing up to the North Korean extortion racket. Calling out the Chinese rip off and the
        continuing sell out of America to the Chinese plan of domination. How about actively changing business
        dynamics to bring jobs & profits back to America. Making NATO stand up to their obligations and not just having them slither under our umbrella. Actually condemning the endless murders in Chicago and trying to
        do something. Making Rose O’ dim-mind put on a pussy costume to praise Dear Leader, thats a reality check.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          I specifically specified providing ONE specifc example of Donald demonstrating his love of America by contributing even a small portion of his wealth or energy that contributed to the betterment of America during his 30+ yrs in public life, not including the past 7 months. If he truly loved America you should be able to provide just ONE example.Now try again.

      • Cozette
        Cozette says:

        You apparently weren’t alive during Vietnam or you wouldn’t be such a preening moralist. Most boys his age went to college and got deferments. After college he reported to the draft and the military doctor rejected him because of bone spurs. To suggest that the millions of boys like him who got deferments over 40 years ago don’t love this country is a sickening comment. I would say the fact that he gave up a great life and put his safety and the safety of his family at risk to serve us for free demonstrates his love for all Americans. No one has laid so much on the line since Founding Fathers.

  12. odys
    odys says:

    WE are the movement. Trump is just the vehicle. I support Trump because he was the first American leader in a generation who was interested in finding out why the American worker was priced out of the global job market.

  13. Charles Mueller
    Charles Mueller says:

    Well reasoned and detailed, and I believe you, but would recommend finding a good editor.

  14. landon
    landon says:

    VDH may be the only talking head that gets it, and he totally gets it.

    My greatest contempt is for these #NT R’s

    Dr. Hanson, why are your #NT co workers at NRO so dumb?

  15. LyingComesSoNaturalToYou
    LyingComesSoNaturalToYou says:

    Apparently, it’s not what I haven’t learned, it’s what people have forgotten. Fascism…

    Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.

    If I have to show examples, you haven’t been paying attention.

    • David Lilly
      David Lilly says:

      Get over yourself. This country is what it is and calling the sane, true patriots fascists will play well to about the lowest 35% of the populace.
      You think that by defining things in terms suitable to your argument that you have done some good for your side.
      HAR
      Reality marches right by you and the other anti-American leftist vermin.
      We are not laughing with you, we are laughing at you.

      • LyingComesSoNaturalToYou
        LyingComesSoNaturalToYou says:

        That 35% that you are talking about are the ignorant die hard Trump supporters that surround me in Indiana. Thank God Repubicans in Congress are resisting you’re agenda.

      • reality check
        reality check says:

        And those laughs are now bouncing off the walls of your ever shrinking echo chamber and what you actually hear are your own lonely laughs coming back at you. SAD.

    • Its_All_Baloney
      Its_All_Baloney says:

      We don’t have to be perfect. We just have to be better than the neocommunist Democrats. Luckily for us, that’s an easy standard to meet.

  16. David Lilly
    David Lilly says:

    A country seeking a leader is only as good as its’ options.
    Take it from an Ohioan, Kasich is toast, he has won his final election unless the democrats gift him another horribly un-electable candidate.
    As well and as stated, the democrats are out of their minds and have become a broken record. The country bought in, kinda, when we twice elected barackHUSSEINobama but whether thew left admits it or not obama broke his party, and the left wont admit it.

    I also believe 2018 and 2020 will be fairly good for the GOP. I am far from a republican, I detest the party almost to a man. But, I fell like President Trump will have a better economy as measured by GDP in one or both of his first two years. As well, the democrats are in a terrible position for the coming mid terms next year. Any rational study of the electoral map would scream to any sane person that it is more likely that the GOP picks up a senate seat or three than losing one.
    If nothing else watching the power brokers in both parties and the anti-American hard left imploding and exploding at the same time has been truly a real joy.
    Enjoy the show folks,
    DHD

  17. Peter63
    Peter63 says:

    Two things will not survive President Trump’s electoral victory last year. Very properly.

    One of them is the Never-Trump “Conservatives”. They are finished. His candidacy and its themes showed them up as having failed to campaign for all manner of urgent conservative principles (no mass immigration, no crony corporatism, no terrible job-destroying trade deals, no more pointless foreign wars). Whatever happens next, there is no way back for them. They suppose that if they can help this President to fail, they will ‘win bragging rights for 50 years’ as Ann Coulter has mordantly characterized them, and carry on with their nice cosy ineffectual think-tanks, foundations, seats on TV and radio panels, jobs in National Review &c.

    No. They lost too large a percentage of their constituency of readers, audience, followers when the Trump campaign of 2015-16 shone its bright light on them. Only people who cherish cockroaches are now interested in what they have to say.

    The other permanent victim is (again very rightly) the Republican Party. Either it is transmogrified by nearly all its current Congressional members being primaried out of their seats and replaced by conservatives who are genuine patriots; OR it staggers on as the Do-Nothing wing of the Uniparty it has been for so long; nowadays extra-motivated to do nothing because it is anti-Trump. In both instances it is finished. There simply aren’t enough voters to support an entity so sterile and destructive. Its behavior, especially since last November, shows everyone that it offers nothing to anybody except its own public office-holders – and elections aren’t won by candidates solely voting for themselves.

    In both these cases you are looking at extremely mediocre people who have all the intrinsic stupidity of that condition. They are simply too foolish to see the grave they have dug/are digging for themselves – and can only tumble into it.

    • bullmoose117
      bullmoose117 says:

      Well you are right if the alt right and “populist” forces can triumph. I think the Donald Trump populist brand is worth about 33% which could clearly be a majority of Republicans. Standing up for something other than blind loyalty to an immature narcissistic bully is considered by some of us the right thing to do regardless.

  18. Jason Rogers
    Jason Rogers says:

    Always love the words and wisdom of Victor Davis Hanson,one of the very few in the media I approve of or like.His appearances and articles are a real treat to me.

  19. Peter
    Peter says:

    So ignore his misbehavior and obvious obnoxious spoiled brat narcissism. I’m sorry but as a human being he is disgusting and the world knows it. 2 out of 3 Americans think he is untrustworthy, i.e. a liar. Pretty much the whole rest of the world laughs at him and us for being such idiots.

    As far as the economy and the stock market nothing has changed since Obama’s recovery started years ago. I know Trump’s core supporters are uneducated, that’s a fact, but maybe showing them simple graphs could help them grasp this reality.

  20. Blackstone
    Blackstone says:

    “…Namely, Trump’s enraged critics still do not grasp that he is a REFLECTION OF, not a catalyst for, widespread anger and unhappiness with globalization, interventionist foreign policy, Orwellian political correctness, identity politics, tribalism, open borders, and a Deep State that lectures and condemns but never lives the consequences of its
    own sermonizing….”

    EXACTLY! EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY!!!! If those dumf*q NeverTrump mandarins EVER grasp that fact then I’m going into the down-parka-sales business in Hell.

  21. Rosa1984
    Rosa1984 says:

    D’Souza is reporting that the organizer of Charlottesville, Jason Kessler, was an Obama Supporter & Occupy Wall Street Activist.
    That throws a wrench in the Leftists’ narrative.
    But its true, Leftist ANTIFA is no different than White Nationalists. Domestic terrorists.

    • reality check
      reality check says:

      Either D’souza just makes stuff up (likely) or is just plain ignorant. You on the other hand, had a chance to do a 2 minute google search and you would know in an instant that you are furthering nonsense. Just because it feeds your narrative and feels good does not mean it is true, even if you think otherwise.
      From Business Insider, hardly a left wing rag:
      “A former University of Virginia student, Kessler founded a far-right nonprofit called Unity & Security for America earlier this year to “protect the West” from “rampant immigration.” “We’re trying to do a pro-white demonstration,” Kessler said. “We’re trying to show that folks can stand up for white people. The political correctness has gotten way out of control, and the only way to fight back against it has been to stand up for our own interests.” Kessler, who has written for right-wing publications like The Daily Caller and the anti-immigration outlet VDARE, said that he is “pro-white” and wants to “stand up” for his people against “ethnic cleansing” by “liberal social policies.” But he denied that he is a white supremacist.

      • Dan Warren
        Dan Warren says:

        You can jump up on your high horse, and call the majority of Americans ‘racists’, but the facts are obvious for all to see that the LEFTIST Democrat agenda these past many years have been deeply divisive to American society.

        Your identity politics, the deliberate alienating of so many minority youths, teaching them that they are victims, rather than imploring them to love the country which provides them the ability to strive for a better life, and the concomitant villainization of white Americans is very real and obvious for many Americans to clearly see.

        Lying Propaganda works right up to the time that it STOPS working, and then it is all downhill from there……Ask the people who lived under the communist yoke in Eastern Europe how much they believed in the propaganda state they lived in……ask a Venezuelan today.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          Your comment was interesting and may be debatable in another discussion.,but never gets respond to to any part of my comment.
          Can you point out just one sentence or even one phrase of yours that DIRECTLY responds to my comment?

  22. XSANDIEGOCA
    XSANDIEGOCA says:

    I think Trump is wonderful. Look at the Establishment Heads that are exploding ! Such a delight. I look forward to voting for him again in 2020. Seven More Years !!

    • Carrington Spensor
      Carrington Spensor says:

      And this is a great article…….

      Look at all the paid bots that were directed by their supervisor to come on here and attack it!

  23. Name
    Name says:

    my what a rosy piece. Meanwhile republicans in congress are running from trump, CEOs are running from Trump. People of conscious are running from Trump.

    • XSANDIEGOCA
      XSANDIEGOCA says:

      Ah…. but we Deplorables love him and that will win the Electoral College. The GOPe, Wall Street and the Elites are not our friends.

      • Name
        Name says:

        next election there wont be HILARY to hate and vote against.
        millienials will surpass baby boomers as eligible voters in 2018
        independants have already abandoned Trump
        the party doesnt want their long term image to be a white race favoring one ( see how polite i put that)

        • Left Coaster
          Left Coaster says:

          Um.
          Trump is President.
          Not Ms Clinton.

          Get over it.
          Trump is your President and you get to claim him..so claim him.

          • Name
            Name says:

            yes i now who the president is. He is not our King. I dont have to be his loyal subject. What exactly is your point?

        • charliehorse
          charliehorse says:

          By 2020 a majority of the Millienials will have decent jobs and will have come to realize, as most young liberal in the past have, that the taxes they have taken from their paycheck is supporting some worthless moron on mommies couch. They’ll vote for President Trump.

          Independents are like the tide….they come and go but they know which side of their 401K the butter is on. They’ll vote for President Trump.

          With the majority race in this Republic being white, and the largest voting block, what party wouldn’t want them on their team? Oh….the progs wouldn’t.

  24. HAPPY
    HAPPY says:

    Among the more brilliant take down of the Dems/Libs and the Never Trumpers….., bravo, Dr. Hanson!

    VDH: “….the idea that conservative populism is a
    temporary deviation from a winning and properly orthodox Jeb Bush
    conservatism is delusional…”

    I used to be a hard-core Free Market proponent…but after decades of Crony Capitalism, epitomized by:

    1) Green energy boondoggles that enriched the Politically Correct
    2) Subsidies galore to the PC crowd
    3) Ever-growing SJW movement (leeches of modern society) funded by sinister Billionaires
    4) Google’s total penetration of the White House, evidenced by hundreds of WH visits and Google’s KEY roles in Obama’s two Election Wins…

    And on and on,…..money funding all sorts of Regressive trends…..

    Yea, I’m now a conservative `Populist’! Break up the Googles & Facebook Globalists! Turn their core product into a public utility! Stop all subsidies to Green Horse Manure and all taxpayer money to colleges and Us’ that ban Free Speech…hit them in the pocketbooks that have been enriched with taxpayer money!

  25. Otsuka Duojinshi
    Otsuka Duojinshi says:

    An interesting construct is best illustrated by an old question. Is art and culture a reflection of society, or is the culture being driven by the artists? President Trump is that reflection of what the ignored by the elites (both left and right) desire. Please tell me of any single politician or leader who could 20,000 seat arenas with 10,000 waiting outside. Tom Perez, Ellison, and other DNC ‘leaders’ can’t fill high school gymnasiums. And Kasich can’t fill a tiny hotel ballroom.

  26. Icepilot
    Icepilot says:

    Technology is also making a difference.
    The “dot.com” boom was a precursor to the tsunami of new technologies that will make the world-changing waves of steam, coal & steel of a century ago look like ripples in a mud puddle.

  27. Mad Libs!
    Mad Libs! says:

    The silly leftist media and pollsters are blowing it bigly, but I will never tell them why.

    Lol

  28. jessefan in chapel hill
    jessefan in chapel hill says:

    “Ask not what your country can do for you; but ask what you can do for your country.” – JFK
    Today’s ‘Democrat’ would probably condemn that comment as coming from a “racist white nationalist”.

      • Carrington Spensor
        Carrington Spensor says:

        Oh, come on…….

        Today’s Democrats motto is:

        “Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you and give to you”.

    • Dave781
      Dave781 says:

      And did you listen to Trump’s inaugural address? To paraphrase – Ask not what you can do for your country, but ask instead what your country can do for you.

    • reality check
      reality check says:

      BTW, I ask again, can anyone of you point to one specific thing donald has done for his country before his election. Go back as far as you want and come up with just ONE example of Donald doing anything for his country. Hiring lots of people to work for him doesn’t count and shouldn’t.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          Of course not & you know it. Even donald himself admits he pays as little in taxes as he can legally get away with. You need to do much better.

          • jessefan in chapel hill
            jessefan in chapel hill says:

            ?
            Am I arguing with a “progressive Democrat’ or a child? These days you cannot tell the difference.
            :)

  29. Left Coaster
    Left Coaster says:

    Now if only more Americans agreed with Hansen…but obviously, most Americans do not.

    The majority of Americans do not support Trump.
    The majority of Americans do not support the alt-right (AKA racism)

    As long as the majority of Americans do not, and will not, support Trump, Trump will continue to be weak and a loser.

    The majority of Americans can see that Trump is too weak.

    The majority of Americans are right.

    • HAPPY
      HAPPY says:

      Did you bother to read what VDH cited as all the positive CHANGES….even on the Left Coast?

      I can answer that…..nearly 15k Comments, paid no doubt….you can’t have the time to read.

    • R J Ault
      R J Ault says:

      Trump has been a crook and a conman all his life. He won’t change his stripes in the White House. I can’t believe all these morons who fall for his con job.

  30. Left Coaster
    Left Coaster says:

    Hey Hansen…?

    We will see in a few more months..

    After Mueller releases the indictments..

    Then America will see.

  31. R J Ault
    R J Ault says:

    This is a load of unadulterated BS. Trump’s election has less than nothing to do with the positive economic growth now being experienced. Hanson’s approach is analogous to Bill Clinton taking credit for the prosperity of the ’90’s, when Reagan had laid all the groundwork for it. What we must understand that the only thing important about Trump’s election is that it has exposed American at its worst. This isn’t about elitism – This is about being governed by people – Republican or Democrat – who possess common decency. This is something that Trump wouldn’t know if it bit him on his ample butt. And apologists like Hanson are even worse because they have swallowed his racist, proto-fascist BS and they don’t have the excuse as being dumb as rocks like him.

    • Left Coaster
      Left Coaster says:

      People like Hansen don’t want to be mocked for electing Trump.
      They want Trump to succeed, any any cost, so they can feel vindicated for their vote.

      No.
      Americans can see that Trump is too weak to be President.
      It shows.

    • jessefan in chapel hill
      jessefan in chapel hill says:

      Hey, Ault. compadre…just keep that BS mindset of yours and ensure Trumps re-election.
      :)

        • jessefan in chapel hill
          jessefan in chapel hill says:

          “Progressives” constantly dream.
          Right? And when they don’t; they pitch a fit.
          :)

          • ARMSTROB
            ARMSTROB says:

            Where have you been hiding since the election. So many people, Pelosi, Durbin, Hillary’s vice president the list goes on said the election was a fraud. Then it went to collusion, then obstruction and now Spec. Prosecutor and you guys are still chasing your tails. You sound like a fair person so your defense of this breach of fair play does not sound convincing.

  32. Black_Saint
    Black_Saint says:

    Every big city that they have controlled for years is a cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Poverty and Misery give them a few years and they will destory everything they touch be it a city, State or Nation.

    Contrary to what many think they do not do it out of stupidity but a very careful plan to destory the middle class and replace them with uneducated third world criminals and welfare lovers from felled cultures around the world that will vote Democrat.

    The Democrats would rather have complete power and control over a third world cesspool than share power in a first world Nation.

    Calif. is a very successful version of their plan large swaths of Calif. are much more like Mexico than what Calif. was like before they achieved total control!

    • Left Coaster
      Left Coaster says:

      The rich move into California.
      The poor move out.

      Works for California.
      Quite well, actually.

        • Left Coaster
          Left Coaster says:

          No.
          California isn’t bankrupt.
          California has a budget surplus.

          California’s economy is booming.
          Is your state?

          • bowhowdy2
            bowhowdy2 says:

            Maybe, but what plans do you snowflakes have for the afterlife?
            Money ain’t gonna help you there, social justice warrior.

          • Carrington Spensor
            Carrington Spensor says:

            LOL

            California has a “budget surplus” because Gov. Brown borrowed money from state pension funds to pay its bills. Maybe some of that million dollar “budget surplus” can be used to pay the multi-trillion dollar amount it owes to retired workers.

          • JimBob777
            JimBob777 says:

            Kansas- they are under a microscope and can’t lie about what is happening. Moonbeam gets free press and lies about everything. Please stay in Mexifornia if you live there; if you don’t, please move there.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          Depending on who keeps track, CA’s economy is either the 6th or the 11th largest in the world. Not so bad for a left wing govt, right?

          • bowhowdy2
            bowhowdy2 says:

            When your number one industry is gay porn, sure. Money isn’t everything. Some people, not those in Krapofornia, actually have morals and ethics.

          • reality check
            reality check says:

            It is too late to erase your comment. Actually CA supplies almost 1/2 of the food consumed by the rest of America, BTW who do you think consumes all of that ‘porn’? Could it be immoral folk and ethically challenged residents of many of those in the RED states? Just asking. Care to answer?

      • Black_Saint
        Black_Saint says:

        The Poor do not move out they move in from Mexico making Calif. the largest welfare State in the union, poorest education system, and large areas now nothing but a Mexican barrio of crime, corruption, poverty and misery!

    • Dirk392
      Dirk392 says:

      “The Democrats would rather have complete power and control over a third world cesspool than share power in a first world Nation”.

      Spot on! That perfectly sums up the thought process of a vile Democrat. Their lust for power and control supercedes anything and everything. They must be defeated.

  33. Left Coaster
    Left Coaster says:

    Trump is failing.

    Good try trying to fool Americans, Hansen, but we can see that Trump is failing as President.

    Americans can see.

    • ARMSTROB
      ARMSTROB says:

      The left can see Hillary’s comeback victory as clearly now as they saw it in 2016. They never learn and they never forget. This guy claims CA. is not in debt and that only the poor are leaving.
      That an immigrant from Syria could easily buy an ocean front home in S.F. Talk about foolish, ignorant Americans.

  34. Cosmosis
    Cosmosis says:

    The liberals have no reverse gear, there is no way to back out of the blind ally they have driven their party down. How do you message your way out of identity politics and back towards unity? The plan thus far has been to pull a class-warfare switch which would resonate with the Bernie fans who want free stuff but you aren’t going to cram the BLM/LGBTQ/Victimology/intersectionality genie back into the bottle – its become an industry now. This leaves a total mess for the next poor dem candidate who will have to pander in 100 directions and talk out of both sides of their mouth while avoiding any situation where they get shunned by any particular group, especially one with “allies” that then have to fight together like it was WWI and endless interlocking treaties force them to go along to avoid fracturing the brittle construct that is modern liberalism. I cant wait to watch it play out.

  35. gunsmithkat
    gunsmithkat says:

    The Left is going to spend the rest of the next four years screaming in the Wilderness. The screaming won’t win back any voters. Sucks to be them.

    • reality check
      reality check says:

      The inevitable slide in donald’s approval by the American people belies you statement. No screaming, no hysteria, just standing back and watching an ’empty suit’ self immolate. Couldn’t be easier or surer!

      • ARMSTROB
        ARMSTROB says:

        Kind of like the inevitable landslide win by Hillary? Or the inevitable self-destruction of trump during the primaries? You have a track record even the CBO would not want.

          • ARMSTROB
            ARMSTROB says:

            You have been praying for anything for over a year now and have zero. You have been sold a bill of goods by your leaders who cannot admit they blew it.

    • ARMSTROB
      ARMSTROB says:

      Not just the left but the Rep. DC elite starring the worse congress in history. Have they dedicated a bridge today?

  36. streiff
    streiff says:

    To use baseball terminology, Dr. Hanson hit a home run with this piece. I want to add one group to the mix. Those like me who in 2016 did not cast a ballot for any presidential candidate and voted down ballot only. My vote didn’t matter in my extremely blue state and my preferred Republican, Cruz, was not on the ballot. I am not anti-Trump or rah-rah Trump, but I am conservative and I do not want to see the will of the voters overturned. I support the president and find that the Russian collusion garbage is not a search for truth but a persecution.

    • reality check
      reality check says:

      Could be. So why not let it play out and if you are right we will all have egg on our collective faces. Specifically, what are you guys afraid of? Donald is the only one who knows EXACTLY what he did or didn’t do and he seems to be afraid that soon the rest of us will find out what donald knows also. Maybe that’s why he has hired many defense lawyers and is inquiring about his pardoning powers including his ability to pardon himself.

      • ARMSTROB
        ARMSTROB says:

        Will you put a date on how long we let this nonsense play out? This BS is 100% about the left and the Rep. elite not believing they lost an inevitable election. Do you really believe this exact same corruption of our political system would not be playing out on Ted Cruz or Scott Walker? Or any other DC outsider. Remember wanting to cancel the Electoral College vote, that is where this started. Do you believe the Spec. Prosecutor should go after those doing all the leaking and Hillary’s crimes or just stay on Trump’s finances which was never part of the original investigation? My hope is that the Independents are watching carefully to what is happening to our political system.

        • reality check
          reality check says:

          The excuse that any one on the left or even Republicans are promoting the investigations are getting very stale. No one questions that Donald won the election except donald himself who constantly needs to remind us and himself as well that he won. The time limit for the investigation is ‘as long as it takes’ to find Trump and his administration guilty or not guilty of l crimes related to Russian connections or interference in the 2016 election. If trump’s finances prove a connection between secret loans from Russians or money laundering for certain Russina nationals that would establish an obligation for Trump to treat those Russians in a favorable way to avoid revealing those possibly illegal connections, would certainly fall under the mandate for Mueller.

          • ARMSTROB
            ARMSTROB says:

            Investigations start off with a crime to investigate. Name the crime that is being investigated here? Can you say Scooter Libby?

          • ARMSTROB
            ARMSTROB says: