Country music star John Rich shared on Monday a stunning conversation he had with President Donald Trump in 2022 that convinced the then-former president to stop taking credit for the COVID shots.
During an interview on the “Try That in a Small Town Podcast, Rich, a vocal conservative, described a dinner he attended with Trump and several Republican senators in 2022. At the time, the former president was holding large rallies with up to 40,000 people, but one thing about the crowds was troubling him.
“He goes, why are people booing me at my rallies when I bring up the vaccine?” Rich said. He noted that Trump was still very proud at that point that he had brought the COVID products to market at “warp speed.”
After the COVID mRNA shots were rolled out in 2021, western nations saw dramatic increases in myocarditis, blood clots, neurological disorders, and many other previously rare ailments.
Cancer rates, alarmingly, also rose exponentially and researchers have discovered why.
Microbiologist Kevin McKernan, a former researcher for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Human Genome Project, discovered the presence of DNA contaminants in the products, which can affect unintended parts of the body and lead cancer, including mesotheliomas, lymphomas and cancers of the brain and bone.
Conservatives like Rich were very aware of the links between the mRNA jabs and the increase in excess deaths in the United States and did not believe that “Operation Warp Speed” was anything to brag about.
While he still supported the former president, he was dismayed that Trump continued to promote the COVID jabs.
“Here’s a guy, to his own admission, one of the biggest egos on earth,” Rich said, adding that because he respected Trump he would answer the question honestly.
“I looked at him and said, okay, I’m going to tell you the answer and you’re not going to like it,” Rich said.
“Let me start off by saying this. We, the American people, do not trust the people you were forced to trust at the time when this was happening,” he recalled telling the president.
He said he explained to Trump that he was talking about the public health officials at “the FDA, CDC, NIH, WHO, Fauci and all the rest of them.”
“I said, Mr. President, we consider them to be a bunch of murderous depopulationist psychopaths,” he continued.
Rich said Trump looked at him and said, “unbelievable!”
“He was stunned,” the musician told his hosts, who were laughing at his impression of President Trump.
Rich said he went on to tell Trump that he too would boo him if he had brought up the COVID shots. He told the hosts that at this point, he figured this would be the last time Trump would invite him to anything because he was “throwing massive shade” on what in Trump’s mind was “one of his biggest accomplishments. ”
The country star argued that Trump’s advisors were not serving him well.
“It dawned on me that nobody had told the man what I was telling him,” he posited. “They all work for him, they all got something to gain from him—they are not going to tell him this.”
Rich declared, “I don’t work for him and I think a lot of him and I wanted him to understand the truth about it.”
“I said here’s why they’re booing you, Mr. President. Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly, who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even died from it, including me,” he said, adding that he told Trump he has “members of my own family who were forced to take it against their will to keep their jobs, and now they’ve got all kinds of problems,” including major heart and lung problems.
According to Rich, Trump said, “this is unbelievable!” and asked if anyone else at the table had heard it.
Rich said Hershel Walker, who was the Republican nominee in the 2022 U.S. Senate election in Georgia, answered that he was hearing the same thing.
“Mr. President, down in Georgia, my constituents come up at my rallies and what John just said I hear every single day,” Rich recounted Walker as saying.
He said that Trump then looked over at Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who nervously nodded in agreement.
The country star shared that he started telling Trump about the vaccine injured members of his own family, but Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) cut in (“swishing his chardonnay around”) to warn Trump about “conspiracy theorists like John Rich,” saying Democrats will try to take credit for what he did and they’re going to beat you in the next election.”
The country music star had told the hosts earlier that Graham is his “least favorite politician in the world,” and that he “would rather go hang out with Tim Walz.”
Rich said he turned to Graham and said sternly, “do not interrupt me when I am speaking. Do you understand me?”
He said the S.C. Senator was taken aback and muttered that he didn’t mean to disrespect him.
“Yeah, but you did,” Rich said he responded, before recounting his family’s experiences with the COVID jabs.
When he was finished, Rich said Trump turned to him and said, “so no more vaccine talk?”
“I said I think that’s a good idea,” Rich recalled, adding, “I said I think you’re going to learn a lot about it.”
Rich argued that Trump made the mistake of trusting a lot of officials, whom he described as “a bunch of depopulationist animals,” but at least he never mandated it.
“Mandating an experimental medical procedure violates the Nuremburg Code,” he declared. “It’s a crime against humanity.”
Rich said he still hoped these people would be held accountable for their crimes, although that remains to be seen. Many COVID era dissidents have been disappointed by the lack of action on this front—even with one of the loudest COVID jab critics Robert Kennedy Jr. leading Health and Human Services.
Meanwhile, Trump, he pointed out, has continued to call him and invite him to events, and even asks for his advice, possibly because he knows Rich will tell him the truth even if he doesn’t want to hear it.
If this conversation took place, and I am not contest that as fact, then it is a true example of speaking truth to power. It was also something that desperately needed to be said. Trump was extraordinarily ill-served by members of his administration & he needs to understand just how much so.