Pfizer Exec Caught on Video Discussing Company’s Interest in Mutating COVID Virus For Future Vaccines

Pfizer executive Dr. Jordan Trishton Walker was caught on video discussing research that involves mutating the COVID virus to help the company develop profitable new vaccines.

Project Veritas released the bombshell video Wednesday night, featuring Walker—the Director of Worldwide Research and Development Strategic Operations and mRNA Scientific Planning at Pfizer—explaining how the company is exploring ways to get around the ban on gain-of-function research by doing “directed evolution” research.

More on Dr. Walker here.

“One of the things we [Pfizer] are exploring is like, why don’t we just mutate it [COVID] ourselves so we could create—preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that. If we’re gonna do that though, there’s a risk of like, as you could imagine—no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating f—king viruses,” Dr. Walker told an undercover Project Veritas journalist over dinner. He was talking with another previous Pfizer employee. So he felt safe. Especially when you have NDA’s you think other employees are safe to vent to and talk to

Walker said that directed evolution is different than gain-of-function research, which involves making pathogens and viruses more lethal and virulent in a laboratory. Directed evolution is defined as “a method used in protein engineering that mimics the process of natural selection to steer proteins or nucleic acids toward a user-defined goal.”

“You’re not supposed to do Gain-of-Function research with viruses. They’d rather we not,” he told the Project Veritas journalist. “But we do these selected structure mutations to see if we can make them more potent. There is research ongoing about that. I don’t know how that is going to work. There better not be any more outbreaks because Jesus Christ,” he added.

The doctor shared what he knew about his company’s plans for more COVID vaccines, and implored the Veritas journalist not to tell anyone about it.

“From what I’ve heard, they [Pfizer scientists] are optimizing it [COVID mutation process], but they’re going slow because everyone is very cautious—obviously they don’t want to accelerate it too much. I think they are also just trying to do it as an exploratory thing because you obviously don’t want to advertise that you are figuring out future mutations,” he said.

“Don’t tell anyone. Promise you won’t tell anyone. The way it [the experiment] would work is that we put the virus in monkeys, and we successively cause them to keep infecting each other, and we collect serial samples from them,” Walker explained.

The doctor admitted that the original COVID virus was likely created at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

“There is a risk. You have to be very controlled to make sure this [COVID]virus you mutate doesn’t create something that just goes everywhere, which, I suspect, is the way that the virus started in Wuhan, to be honest,” Walker said. “It makes no sense that this virus popped out of nowhere. It’s bullsh–t,” he said.

Walker suggested that Pfizer scientists are trying to develop new strains of the virus, so when new variants “pop up” in populations, they can try “to catch them” with a vaccine prophylactically.

“Part of what they [Pfizer scientists] want to do is, to some extent, to try to figure out, you know, how there are all these new strains and variants that just pop up. So, it’s like trying to catch them before they pop up and we can develop a vaccine prophylactically, like, for new variants,” he said. “So, that’s why they like, do it controlled in a lab, where they say this is a new epitope, and so if it comes out later on in the public, we already have a vaccine working.”

“Oh my God. That’s perfect,” responded the Veritas journalist. “Isn’t that the best business model though? Just control nature before nature even happens itself? Right?”

“Yeah, if it works,” Walker replied. “Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for. Like with Delta and Omicron. And things like that. Who knows?” he added.

The doctor went on to refer to the COVID virus, which is responsible for millions of deaths, and the destruction of economies worldwide, as a “cash cow” for Pfizer.

“Either way, it’s going to be a cash cow,” he said. “COVID is going to be a cash cow for us for a while going forward. Like obviously.”

The Veritas journalist replied: “Well, I think the whole research of the viruses and mutating it, like, would be the ultimate cash cow.”

Walker agreed, saying “yeah, it’d be perfect.”

The doctor went on to admit that pharmaceutical companies and government officials, such as at the Food & Drug Administration [FDA], have mutual interests that are not in the best interest of the American people.

He told the Veritas journalist that Big Pharma is “a revolving door for all government officials.”

“So, in the pharma industry, all the people who review our drugs—eventually most of them will come work for pharma companies,” he explained, arguing that the same is true for any industry. “And in the military, defense government officials eventually work for defense companies afterwards,” he said.

Walker said the revolving door is “pretty good for the industry to be honest,” but admitted “it’s bad for everybody else in America.”

The reason it’s bad, he explained, is “because when the regulators reviewing our drugs know that once they stop regulating, they are going to work for the company, they are not going to be as hard towards the company that’s going to give them a job.”

Regulatory capture, many doctors and scientists argue, has led to the approval of Big Pharma’s risky COVID shots, resulting in millions of vaccine injuries and deaths throughout the world.

James O’Keefe said he had an encounter with Walker after the video broke, and will be posting that video on Thursday.

Pfizer has reportedly shut down comments on its social media in response to this bombshell story.


According to Pfizer fetal stem cell whistleblower Melissa Strickler McAtee,  Walker was talking to a former Pfizer employee, which is why he felt comfortable to speak so freely.

“He was talking with another previous Pfizer employee. So he felt safe. Especially when you have NDA’s you think other employees are safe to vent to and talk to,” McAtee tweeted.


In a post on his Substack, physician, scientist, and author Dr. Robert Malone reacted to Project Veritas’ bombshell video, focusing on the banality of evil on display in Walker’s remarks.

Here is the rough beast in the flesh, slouching towards Bethlehem to be born. Devoid of empathy. Avarice its purpose. It’s face glowing with joy, oblivious to the profound human tragedy it enables, reveling in the damage wrought to the web of humanity and the structure of a nation. Oblivious to the horror embodied in its words, in the very fabric of its language. Possessed by a deep belief in its own entitlement. Oozing dizzy narcissism. Celebrating corruption. Completely devoid of wisdom, introspection or self-awareness of the fundamental perversion of its soul.

A senior emissary from an immortal corporation, which courts have defined as having rights formerly restricted to human citizens, and which chronically preys and feeds on human suffering. A corporation which shrugs off massive fines for illegal activities as just another inconvenience, a mere business expense.

Look deeply into the face of this ambassador from another world, listen carefully to these worlds. This is how we got here. This is the culture that has given us this global human tragedy.

Behold the banal face of unrepentant evil.

Malone, the inventor of  mRNA technology, told Project Veritas that directed evolution is essentially the same as gain-of-function, and both, of course are very dangerous.

You’re gaining function, you’re creating a new function in virus one by adding elements from virus two, infecting one monkey and then another monkey. That’s called serial passage. That appears to have been one of the technologies deployed in the Wuhan Institute of Virology with the humanized mouse strains that I believe were obtained from EcoHealth Alliance. That’s an example of directed evolution.

The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass at all about what he’s doing. The hubris and arrogance and immaturity. If this is the quality of individuals within Pfizer that are making these huge decisions that risk global public health with such a casual disregard for the human toll, it’s profoundly corrupt in terms of would it be feasible for Pfizer to circumvent international or national law? I think that is undeniable.

And the gentleman in your investigative work has clearly indicated that Pfizer believes that it has successfully captured the regulatory apparatus of the United States government and presumably worldwide. Pfizer has completed regulatory capture, is quite proud of it.


Anti-vax warrior Robert Kennedy Jr. weighs in on Twitter:

“Amazing reporting by James O’Keefe showing us what we already knew: Pfizer is a craven venal homicidal morally bankrupt criminal enterprise that has captured and corrupted its regulators,” Kennedy tweeted.


The Daily Mail’s article on the Project Veritas story has been pulled Thursday morning without explanation.


Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) on Thursday called on Congress to “investigate vaccine manufacturers and the entire COVID vaccine approval system.”

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