Trump Risks Debasing American Citizenship

Because Democrats regard the millions of people who have entered, are entering, and (they hope) will continue to enter the United States illegally as a prospective bloc of captive voters, they demand we give illegal aliens “a path to citizenship.” And President Trump now seems inclined to give in to that demand.

Citizenship is what the 1965 immigration law has conferred to more than 40 million people from what we used to call the Third World, a majority of whom have in fact become the Democratic Party’s reliable supporters. So as we decide what the status of various categories of illegals should be and whether to continue or to reform our current system of legal immigration, there should be no doubt that the balance of political power in America is at stakenever mind its cultural character.

Who shall be admitted to citizenship is the question. Next to that, who we let in to do what looms small. Citizenship determines who shall rule, to what ends, and what life among us will be. Such decisions are quintessential to popular sovereignty.

We obfuscate reality if we pretend that today’s influx is a mere continuation of the hallowed heritage of American immigration; if we ignore that people who want to come to America differ in their motivation, character, and above all in relevance to our constitutional republic. What follows distinguishes the categories of people involved and asks what status we should grant to whom and for what reason.

Is It All Just Racism?
The 1924 immigration law had established small quotas for immigration from foreign countries, proportionate to the percentage of U.S citizens from those counties. Today, calling that law “racist” is commonplace. By what criterion is it “racist” for a country to decide to remain the way it is?  

By the 1924 law, Americans decided to admit people like themselves, including habits of the heart and mind regarding honesty, work, women, and America itself. And if taking origin into account is racist, why was the 1965 law not racist for prioritizing and turbocharging with unlimited “family reunification immigration” by Third World people with characteristics very much different from those of Americans? What had been wrong with America that it had to be righted by injecting people as different as these have been? What change, precisely, was this injection supposed to produce?

In short, the contrast between the pre- and post-1965 approaches to immigration has to do with the different political and cultural agendas of Americans.

Full disclosure: my mother and I immigrated from Italy in 1955. At the time, competition for visas was stiff. Mom had answered a job offer from America. My school report cards were examined. All who stood as our ship passed by the Statue of Liberty had undergone intensive interviews about our attitude to America and everything else, including politics and religion. I did not meet anybody on the ship who was not enthusiastic about becoming an American. None of us spoke English. We yearned to assimilate. Had anyone suggested that we avail ourselves of public assistance, we would have shuddered with incomprehension and horror.  

Post-1965 legal immigration’s similarity with that of 1924-65 ends with the fact that all receive “permanent residency” and “a path to citizenship.” And yes, the arrival of Indo-Pakistani doctors, Chinese scientists, and so forth continues to testify to America’s attraction to the world’s most talented and energetic people.

The 1965 law, however, as designed and especially as administered, opened a “path to citizenship” to massive numbers of folk regardless of talent or character, specifically from the “developing world.” For some 70 percent, the chief additional characteristic is being a link in an endless chain of family relations. Often they come lukewarm or even hostile to what America is, to its ways, to its history, even to Judeo-Christianity. Assimilating and becoming citizens of the Founders’ Republic is hardly a priority.

Not incidentally, since the mid-1960s, the U.S. government and the ruling class in general have ceased to regard assimilation as a good worth pursuing. They have considered themselves operators of a vast enterprise of social welfare and uplift of which immigrants are another category of clients. This has worked synergistically: in contrast with previous immigrants whose admission had been conditioned on earning their way, the post-’65 variety have been offered a host of public benefits, which they have not been shy about taking.

Migration vs. Immigration
Meanwhile, millions of Latin Americans—but mostly Mexicans—were migrating north. At first, this had nothing to do with immigration. The Mexicans, especially, were flowing in both directions across an essentially open border. They were coming mostly for seasonal work and going home accordingly.

During World War II and for almost two decades following, the U.S. government recruited and facilitated this flow through the “Braceros” program. (As a high school student in the late 1950s, I helped provide translation at their farm labor camps in New Jersey.)

In the 1960s, the government ended the guest-worker program under pressure from the labor movement and began to tighten controls on the Mexican border. The more difficult and expensive it became for workers to go back and forth, the more they brought wives and children, and stayed. During the off-season, some availed themselves of American public services. Thus did migrant workers effectively become migrants.

But virtually none had any idea, never mind intention, of joining our republic and assimilating as bona fide immigrants. Their extended families and their hearts remained in Mexico. As decades passed, some de facto assimilation occurred. The children who became adults in America, and new ones who were born on U.S. soil, have known only America. Hence, over a half-century, a new Latino reality of perhaps 12 million people has grown, never envisaged by law but seldom disturbed by it. New migrants are adding to it.

Our Choices
Democrats (plus some Republicans and even President Trump) speak of this illegal or semi-legal mass as “immigrants,” and pretend that our only choice is to make citizens of them or deport them.

Nonsense. These persons never “immigrated.” They neither requested to be part of us nor received a favorable answer. There is no question of any right or justice to citizenship. In any country, such people have only such legal status as the laws may grant. Moreover, in America, these illegals or semi-legals are hardly outlaws. Although state laws vary and federal law prohibits the employment of non-“U.S. persons” without special visas, illegals live and work here basically without restriction. Virtually all social services are open to them. Perhaps most important, they enjoy the protection of the laws governing contracts. Deportation is so episodic as to be anomalous.

Our legal and administrative convenience argues for defining their legal status in a manner beneficial to all: residence and ability to work during good behavior. And that’s it. Parts of our economy, especially agriculture, depend on foreigners who want to work here, but who neither want to be nor are wanted as citizens. But the false dichotomy between citizenship and deportation, deep-rooted in our theatrical and exploitative politics, continues to rule this out.

Democrats cry “to avoid deporting ‘the kids,’ we must grant citizenship and voting rights to all.” Candidate Trump had bellowed: “For those here illegally today who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only. To return home and apply for re-entry like everybody else.”

President Trump was never going to deport some 800,000 persons who had arrived as children, along with millions of their productive parents. Most rational observers of the election understood that. But he did not have to cave to the Democrats’ demand to grant citizenship to the whole lot. A White House spokesman explained that his decision to seek a “path to citizenship” for 1.8 million people is “a compromise position that we believe . . . will get 60 votes in the Senate.”

Reflect on what low regard for citizenship—a share in ruling America—one must have to confer it on a class of people in an attempt to make a political deal. Think about the disparity between the consequential, irrevocable gift and the hope to meet a threshold of votes that Senate rules can change on a whim. The grand hope is that the Democrats may agree to money for some miles of a “big, beautiful wall” along the Mexican border, so that the president may pretend to his less intelligent supporters that, by voting for him, they have preserved America’s integrity.

But illegal entrants will find it a trifle. Most already come in big batches through the border’s most fortified parts. Ask them how it’s done. The going rate for a no-frills but safe trip, usually in an 18-wheeler, they tell you, is about $4,000 a head—half of which the traffickers pay to the Border Patrol. More important, future border crossers will know that, under the new precedent, so long as they bring with them somebody under 18, they’ll be able to count on citizenship sooner or later. Democrats have already started counting the votes.

Immigration under the 1965 law has been netting the Democrats almost 1 million new voters a  year—consistency in the immigrants’ political character being well-nigh guaranteed by keeping some 70 percent of new immigration within the ever-extending families of earlier arrivals.

In short, the Democrats, having figured out a half-century ago they were becoming distasteful to the voters, set about recruiting voters with different tastes.

The Nobility of Citizenship
There seems to be growing agreement in Washington that the 1965 law should be revised to favor persons of “merit” to America. But just like defining the meaning of “legal status” for illegals, defining who “merits” legal immigration will pit Democrats who know exactly what they want—votes—against Republicans who either are trying to project a benevolent image or are simply servicing the Chamber of Commerce’s requests for cheap labor.

Alas, reform of legal immigration is likely to follow the pattern that Trump has set: empty Republican words filled by more purposeful Democrats. Bragging rights for the former, votes for the latter.

Possibly to change this pattern, the country—and immigrant communities—would have to face the Democratic immigration strategy’s ugly reality, namely to turn immigrant communities into the functional political equivalent of blacks. Democrats secure their votes with a small, declining modicum of real assistance, and ever more virulent efforts to incite hate between them and the rest of America. Anyone familiar with Hispanics and Latinos knows how distasteful to them are any and all notions of being treated like blacks.

The sine qua non of transcending the sad state of America’s immigration politics, however, is the revival of discourse over the nobility of citizenship in this great republic. The United States of America is the best of great nations and the greatest of good nations. To have any power over its life is the greatest of responsibilities. Those we elect as stewards of American citizenship must treat it as a sacred trust, and pass it on as such.

About Angelo Codevilla

Angelo M. Codevilla was a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness. He was professor of international relations at Boston University and the author of several books including To Make And Keep Peace (Hoover Institution Press, 2014).

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60 responses to “Trump Risks Debasing American Citizenship”

  1. Trump should agree to DACA to get wall funding.
    And then double cross the Democrats on DACA, via an executive order.
    That’s what Democrats do all the time–obtain present money by making future promises–and then renege on their promises.

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  2. Excellent article. Trump needs to be held to the promises he made as a candidate. And he needs to made aware that future support depends on not producing an immigration plan Jeb Bush would be proud of.

  3. If Trump is caving, that surrender must be driven by utterly cynical and calculating politics–as in a president willing to alienate his base, because he believes the number of voters who would subsequently vote for him (and his party?) outnumber those he has alienated.

    Given the nature of the American left and their media allies, that calculation is as delusional as George H.W. Bush believing Democrats would be more amenable to helping him after he reneged on his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge.

  4. So far this morning I’ve read articles at American Thinker, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Hill, RCP, and Hot Air. I was more interested in the commentary than the actual articles. I wasn’t surprised to see the number of commenters screeching about Trump’s betrayal of his base and loony tunes demands that ALL illegals must go! What nonsense. No thinking person ever believed that draconian measures would be implemented to rid our shores of illegal aliens. And then there were the Libs and Never Trumpers–who cares?

    The truth is that Trump has once again proved his genius at manipulating the Democrats and Media into untenable positions. Beginning two weeks ago at the Tuesday Summit at the White House Trump articulated his 4 pillars of immigration reform. The only surprise is the inclusion of one million extra non-filing Dreamers. What a move! Who on the left will be able to claim that Trump isn’t being generous? How will they spin this without looking foolish?

    I’ve read claims that the list Steven Miller presented to Congress only calls for the promise to build the wall in 10 years. Sorry, I have no idea where that interpretation is coming from. What I do see is the demand that a $25 Billion Trust Fund be established for wall construction and border security. To me that means the monies are earmarked NOW so that a future Administration or Congress cannot renege on the deal. Once again–genius.

    The whole issue, in my opinion, is how to stem future incursions. We learned from the Reagan years that any compromise with the left is built on a foundation of sand. Reagan made the mistake of believing true immigration reform would follow the amnesty–we all know that never happened AND why. Trump is building in the guarantees this time.

    More power to him.

    • To me that means the monies are earmarked NOW
      Apparently, the Congressional nuance is between “authorized” and “allocated”. The clever devils can “authorize” but never “allocate” in which case the object never happens. Since the President is truly the master of the deal, I am confident he will insist on “allocate” language that makes the Wall happen toute suite.

      • Frank, that is how I interpreted “Trust Fund”–in that after the funds are approved (allocated) they will be set aside in a separate fund immune from yearly budget battles.

    • So, you are thrilled that Trump lied on his biggest promise during his run. At least you know what virtues you like. On this whopper, he is up there with Bill and Hillary and Barack.

      • Kent, Frank Natoli probably put it best in this thread when he said.”When a pipe bursts in your house, what is the first thing you do?
        Answer: you shut off the water, and only then address the water in your house.”

        So to answer you, no I am not thrilled, but I am smart enough to understand the politics of the situation. To get the other three pillars of Trump’s immigration reform will require sixty votes in the Senate to get passed. How will that happen with a divided Republican Congress and a unified Democrat opposition?

        The answer is the moderate wing of both parties. I’ve said it before in this and other threads, with idiots like Flake and Graham siding with the Democrats on a “clean” DACA bill there isn’t a snowflake’s chance in h3ll that the wall will be built or chain migration ended. That bait and switch happened in 1986 and I don’t want to see it happen again.

        If single issue Republicans abandon Trump over this then we will end up with a Democrat flip in the House and Senate. Is that what you want? It reminds me of Cleevon Little in Blazing Saddles–“Get back or I’ll shoot the n!gger.”

        You’ve seen the liberal reaction to his proposal–probably the best deal the DACA kids could ever hope for–and they react with accusations of white Supremacy! Give Trump both some credit and support. It is amazing the things he has accomplished for us in just one year. The DACA kids are already here–they were never going to be deported despite far right wing delusions. So why not use them for the ultimate bargaining chip? For them we get the wall, the end to chain migration, and the end of the visa lottery.

        To paraphrase Frank Natoli–fix the damn leak and then clean up the mess!

      • This is Trump doing the exact opposite of what he promised. He actually did the same thing on Obamacare, which you notice still is in place. When the Freedom Caucus tried to get support for a real repeal bill, Trump shot them down with a threat to primary them all. He put his full support behind the fake repeal bills which were not what his base wanted.

        I like much of what Trump has done. But when he ran I believed all the immigration promises were lies and I also believed his opposition to Obamacare was a lie based on his lifelong support of single payer. And in fact Trump has moved the debate on immigration into Democrat friendly territory and on Obamacare, who knows. These were critical areas where his leadership could produce a much better result. But in these areas he is not leading, he is playing games.

      • Kent, sorry for the delay in my reply. It didn’t show up in the thread until I did a refresh on the page.

        As I recall, Trump didn’t threaten to primary the Freedom Caucus members until after his first repeal attempt failed. AND the bill passed the House! Too, how can the failures to repeal be placed at his feet when his biggest opponents were Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake and Mitch McConnell in the Senate? I don’t count any of these three as Conservative. You can throw John McCain in with that bunch too. After all, it was McCain who killed the bill!

        To me your anger is misplaced. Trump tried for a clean repeal–he was blocked by Congress. He has done all he could do by killing Obama’s funding EO’s. His tax bill killed the mandate. What do you expect him to do? Put a gun to the head of every Republican Congressman and Senator?

        Again Kent, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Obamacare is failing bit by bit. Trump has not given up on its repeal. Tell me how else we are going to get a wall, end visa lottery, and chain migration without dealing with the moderates? Tell me please!

      • Trump didn’t have a “first” repeal attempt because he never put forward a repeal bill.

      • Try again Kent. The President does not present legislation. The Congress does. There have been two attempts to repeal portions of O care. Neither passed. You cannot lay that on Trump. The stench belongs on Congress–both houses.

      • Try again idiot. An effective President has allies who draft his legislation. Because he is the President.
        Are you really this stupid?

      • Again with a personal attack. Then who presented the legislation? Do you deny he has been undermined by both the leadership in the House and the Senate? What support have you given?

        The Ryan bill passed the House. The Senate Bill was killed by McCain. Call me stupid again and I will block you.

        Because he is the President Are you really depending on one man to fix all of your ills? Are you so quick to discount everything positive he has done?

        You still haven’t answered me and I have asked you three times. This is the last time I will ask and I will not respond again until you answer:
        Tell me how else we are going to get a wall, end visa lottery, and chain migration without dealing with the moderates? Tell me please!

      • Frank is smart. You, given that migration is net zero and the problems of American economy/security and whatever else causes you to freak lie elsewhere, not so much.

      • Really aprescoup? Net zero in a pig’s eye. 40% of chain migration is from lottery visa holders. That isn’t a security issue to you?

        According to the US Border Patrol there have been 28,996 apprehensions this fiscal year (September 1-December 31 2018)
        AND that is just the number that were caught! How many got through?

        And if you are going to call me a freak liar at least note the lies. I expect more from you than a drive by attack.

      • More Mexicans Leaving Than Coming to the U.S. –

        Regardless tho, America’s working class, economic and security problems stem from all sorts of Washington/War and Wall Street kleptocrat driven policies of which their bipartisan immigration policies are political BS and mere fodder for their respective parties’ useful chumps and prove least problematic. –

      • Again, I expect more from you than that. The Pew study addressed Mexicans only. From the same site I gave you earlier:
        Apprehensions of family units by country at the southern border by country–
        fiscal year 2017
        El Salvador = 24,122
        Guatamala = 24,657
        Honduras = 22,366
        Mexico = 2,217

        So yes–fewer Mexican coming in and possibly more leaving. BUT that does not address incursions from other Central American Countries. I never thought it would be like you to cherry pick statistics from our earlier conversations. So I’m hoping something else is up with you.

        As to the Wiki URL–exactly what was I supposed to get from that? One thing I did get was that Congress–though approving the fence, did not provide full funding for it. To me, that is the debacle Trump is trying to avoid.

        And since you called me a freak liar, I still expect you to back that up. Where did I lie? How did I lie? When did I lie?

      • El Salvador = 24,122
        Guatamala = 24,657
        Honduras = 22,366

        Clearly the root of any northern migration ‘problem” rests with easily and inexpensively remediable anti-working class, criminally globalist/imperialist, neoliberal foreign policies of the last 40 years, promoted by both corrupt parties, rather than the absence of some silly, easily scaleable and super costly border wall and policies.

        The Pentagon cannot account for 3 trillion of taxpayer dollars while blowing well over 1 trillion per annum for it’s criminal, imperialist, operations. Wall Street was bailed out by the liberal class – both parties – to the tune of 20+ trillion dollars while tanking the economy.

        50% of the American public live lives of deep economic insecurity having exactly zero to do with immigration policies. So what gives with this migratory nothin’burger really?

      • “50% of the American public live lives of deep economic insecurity having exactly zero to do with immigration policies. So what gives with this migratory nothin’burger really?”

        So you’re p!ssed at the neoCons and the neoLibs. Fine. I’m with you on that. That also has to mean you are pleased with Trump’s actions on the Paris Climate Accords and TPP–as am I. Multi-lateral trade agreements have hurt the working class of this country. Unilateral agreements make more sense. Reducing the tax burden on the middle class makes sense too. An up to $2,500 tax reduction for middle class tax payers isn’t chump change. Neither is the plethora of bonuses being handed out by major corporations.

        I do disagree with you on the net effect of illegal immigration. Staying with your point on the negative affects on the working class by both globalist policies and immigration policies, let me offer this point:

        Entry level jobs are held at the highest levels by illegals. You know why so I won’t belabor it. This hurts employment for all young first time employees. It hurts the African-American population the most. It doesn’t matter to me if we are discussing southern border incursion OR the fly-ins from Asia, Africa, or the Middle East. They all have an adverse affect on the labor market WHEN LOOKED AT IN TERMS of the American working class.

        From our earlier conversations I perceived that you are not a Republican. I also perceived you are not a Democrat. So I assume you are an Independent. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Trump has done more to demolish the Globalist monolith than anyone before. So to me, the enemy isn’t Trump, nor is it his immigration policy. It is the establishment Dems and Repubs.

        If you are in agreement then despite our political differences we can find common ground. But I will not abide a personal attack ever again.

      • “They all have an adverse affect on the labor market WHEN LOOKED AT IN TERMS of the American working class.”

        Perhaps, but on a scale of 1-10 that effect is at best around 1.5 while bipartisan, neoliberal, financial, trade and industrial policies, piled on top of the sort of national debt-raising militarist and welfare for the .01% billionaire class policies of working class immiseration – corporate and billionaire trickle down welfare – are way up there around 9.

        As for Trump, he’s continuing most of his predecessors’ neoliberal policies. You’re just not paying attention to anything beyond Trump’s BS rhetoric, I’m afraid. The Stock Market is not the economy and GDP is a worse than useless economic measure…

      • Okay, I tried. See you later when you offer solutions not anger. I feel you are under-valuing the affect of illegal immigration on the working class and over-valuing Trump’s rhetoric versus the real changes he has enacted.

        Perhaps a start is when you begin listing particular policies and get away from generalities. To me what you are doing now is nothing more than the sloganism you say you abhor.

      • I have good reasons reasons to undervalue the effects of predictable migrations caused by US neoliberal foreign/trade policies geared at enriching multinational, near-monopoly rigged corporate-state interests which simultaneously destroy the livelihoods of local populations while causing them to seek remedies – in the name of their family responsibilities and values – due north.

        US working-middle class problems are located at the intersection of Washington, War and Wall Street rather than at border checkpoints.

        Case in point:

        $10 Trillion Missing From Pentagon And No One — Not Even the DoD — Knows Where It Is

      • We are beginning to work at cross purposes here. I just answered your post above. Look, you drop a URL in as if that is all the answers but you do nothing to connect how the URL substantiates your point. I go to the site, read the article to try to get your point and you drop another URL.

        I imagine the $10 trillion was in black ops operations and in Dark R & D programs and graft. Who expects accountability from the Government? Not me–we are having to fight tooth and nail just to get access to the texts between Strzok and Page. You don’t have to preach to me about the Deep State.

        WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS? What changes in policy do you recommend? Who should we follow? What should we vote for? Stop bitching and complaining. I see enough of that on the Daily Caller and Breitbart/Salon and HuffPo.

      • Aprescoup, I wanted to address this too: rather than the absence of some silly, easily scaleable and super costly border wall and policies.” The Special Forces tried to scale the prototypes and they couldn’t do it.

      • A good article–especially the second and fourth charts. Chart two demonstrates that productivity peaked in 1970 and Chart four that wealth shifted in 1985. You made the point that GDP is not a good indicator of economic health. I’ll buy that–but it does depend on how GDP relates to other issues–which the article pointed out.

        So what are your suggestions? What do we need to do to increase productivity? That is a big question–probably the biggest question. And this isn’t the first time I’ve come across the productivity decrease argument. The article points out the globalization was the biggest contributor when cheap worldwide labor began to displace more expensive American labor. It also demonstrated that wealth in the top 1% grew astronomically by taking advantage of cheap labor post 1985–wasn’t this the same time of the Gordon Gecko hostile take overs? When they would buy up companies and then sell off the parts? That is part of what I remember.

        Again–what are your suggestions? I am not be facetious, I am serious. Forget the slogans.

  5. So far President Trump has played the Democrats and the lying leftist media with more skill than Van Cliburn ever played a piano. I think most conservatives will be very happy with the final result from President Trump.

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    • It sure shows in his record low approval ratings. What medication did you forget to take?

      • A month ago, when Trump’s approval was in the high 30s, it was noted that one year into the first term of the guy you voted for, twice, he too had approval in the high 30s.
        See what happens when you forget your willful amnesia meds?
        And now Trump is in the high 40s.
        Or maybe you are amnesiac, deaf and manifestly dumb?

  6. If I were Mr. Codevilla (and apparently a lot of President Trump’s followers too), I would wait a little bit before declaring him a defeated traitor. If we haven’t learned anything about him up to now, we’re the problem.

    • Codevilla did not declare Trump a traitor. He just pointed out how this new Trump policy is a lot like what Jeb Bush was honestly promoting when he ran, and nobody wanted that.

      • Codevilla is very, very good. And a paisano. I admire his purity of thought, but this has not been a pure world since we were cast out of the Garden, and some level of pragmatism is unfortunately required.

  7. When a pipe bursts in your house, what is the first thing you do?
    Answer: you shut off the water, and only then address the water in your house.
    Not to trivialize, but illegal immigration, i.e., indigent unskilled Latin Americans by the millions transiting the Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California southern borders, are the burst pipe.
    To shut off the water, to stop the unlawful border ingress, we MUST have a wall, Israeli style.
    We must also eliminate chain migration and the “diversity” lottery.
    Trump has conditioned any DACA citizenship approval on all three above items.
    If Trump gets all three, in exchange for DACA citizenship, he will have frozen the count of future Democrats at the present number.
    I say that’s worth it.

    • Trump promised to deport the DREAMERS. Citizenship only done legally. Now he is selling the exact opposite as a solution. This is called lying. If you want good liars, vote Democrat.

      • Grow up Kent. Do you want a wall or not? I have little respect for people who make perfect the enemy of good.

      • I have no respect for you, since you dont have a clue. You probably still think the Mexicans will pay for the wall. Grow a brain and then we can talk.

      • Kent, I’ve read your comment history. You are a never Trumper. Big deal. That doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is when your emotional condition dictates your intellectual position.

        Do you want a wall or not? Do you want an end to the visa lottery or not? Do you want an end to chain migration or not?

      • Stop with the ad hominems. Exactly how are you defending Trump–here or anywhere else? Remember, I’ve read your past posts.

        Instead, answer the questions: Do you want a wall or not? Do you want an end to the visa lottery or not? Do you want an end to chain migration or not? And then tell me your plan on how to get them.

      • I have little respect for people who dont know what they are talking about. The author made accurate points about how Trump is now actually selling a policy of larger amnesty than Obama. And so in the future these comments of his represent his position. He is doing nothing to promote non-citizenship for any of the DREAMERS. I can read your comments and you attack the author for holding Trump to his orginal promises. Even though Dr. Codevilla suspected Trump never meant to honor those promises. Pure bait for the bubbas.

    • Asians now outpace Mexicans in terms of undocumented growth

      Mexicans no longer a majority of the undocumented

      5 facts about illegal immigration in the USA

      Better build a wall around Asia, thgatr’s where the undocumented population is coming from…immigration from south of the USA/Mexican border has been net zero for the last 8 years.

      • How about…we add one more requirement to Trump’s list: mandatory e-check for all employers?
        Asians PROBABLY don’t swim the Pacific, so I’m guessing, though the Atlantic article doesn’t bother addressing it, they enter with valid visas, then overstay their visas, and meanwhile work with bogus SSNs.
        I have ZERO sympathy for employers, Democrat or Republican, who short change legal Americans with Third World types who work for peanuts.
        But I still want a wall to stop those entering sans douane, to plagiarize my father’s method of entering Normandy in 1944.

      • Your name doesn’t sound indigenous to people from the america’s. Far as I’m concerned, you’re all “invaders”, it only we could send you all back to your ancestral homeland(s). Tiered of your xenophobic, nativist bigotry.
        We I alive in 1607, I’d have lead the charge to burn all the European’s boats to the waterline and drown all survivors, those who managed to make landfall, left to the elements…until they stopped their “colonization” of the western hemisphere.

        Proud Rappahannock,

      • Your name doesn’t sound indigenous to people from the america’s.
        Ah. So I must infer that your ancestors were Sino-Americans, who had to walk across the Bering Strait to get to the Americas, you know, the land named for my ancestral Amerigo Vespucci. I suppose when the Admiral of the Ocean Seas, my ancestral Cristoforo Columbo, arrived off San Salvador with the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria, those ships seemed like flying saucers to your ancestors, who thought the ultimate floating technology was a hollowed out tree.
        And for the record, I am indigenous to Brooklyn, New York.
        Proud American,

  8. Codevilla appears to have drunk the media Koolaid. Perhaps he has not been paying attention to President Trump’s negotiating style. One of the things a really good negotiator knows is how far the other side is prepared to go. He reads the Dems like a book. He has only to remark that he is “open to” or “suggests” that he “might consider” something and all hell breaks loose. What Codevilla and others miss is that that is his point. What his tentative little remarks (and they are very tentative – tiny hints of hints …) will cause Others to do. Part of the game.

    If I remember accurately, Codevilla has never “approved” of President Trump. Tends to color his thinking, skews his evaluation of what the President is saying, or simply gives him another springboard from which to launch another attack.

    Pundits? Feh!

  9. The author completely misses the point. I know, and Trump knows , the left will never agree. Trump gets political credit for the offer and the dems look like what they are, in thrall to the left.

    • Trump has put his stamp of approval on a massive amnesty with citizenship. Trump has a Republican Congress which has plenty of Republicans who want this sort of illegality made acceptable. Trump can have this solution without any Democrats. He just made amnesty the official Republican policy.

  10. I find it interesting that Mr. Codevilla is such a mind-reader that he can ascertain the motivation, character and relevance (?) of entire classes of would-be immigrants and pronounce them wanting.

    Were we to employ Mr. Codevilla’s standards, I’m not sure Mr. Codevilla would be an American citizen today. He was born, after all, into a fascist country, whose soldiers were killing Americans during his lifetime. He was part of a great exodus of Italians during the post World War II era – folks who were so connected to their homeland that, as of 2000, the Census said 1 million people of Italian ancestry were still speaking the language in the home. The American Mafia, of course, had its roots in Italian organized crime — we imported the problem along with the citizens.

    Once here, do you know what those Italian immigrants did? They *organized politically* to make it possible for even MORE Italian immigrants — family members — to come to the United States! That’s how we got the 1965 law!

    In many major American cities, Columbus Day – ostensibly a celebration of America’s “discovery”- is a celebration of Italian heritage. There are often as many or more Italian flags as American flags at the celebration.

    This doesn’t even include pre-World War II Italian immigrants, who had a repatriation rate of roughly 50 percent. They were here to make money, but their hearts were in the old country.

    It sounds like a population disinclined to assimilate, one with a documented history of bringing crime and expressing outright hostility to the United States. I’m sure Mr. Codevilla has many fine individual characteristics that set him apart from the masses, but we can’t be too careful. We stewards of American citizenship must treat it as a sacred trust, and hoard it like misers.

    * My argument against Mr. Codevilla’s citizenship is satirical of course.

  11. Face it, power, politics and greed sold out the white, judeo-christian culture decades ago. The elite don’t care, never have, never will, as long as they can retire to their comfy, protected enclaves which are interconnected with other elite enclaves so that none of them really ever have to interact with the dirty masses.

  12. There’s really only one solution: Progressivism must be defeated and destroyed. We need to get enough Republicans to do the right thing and reverse this monstrosity. Therefore, progs need to be baited into doing even more insane things like Antifa and shutting down the government over amnesty.

  13. Trump’s plan includes allowing the four million chain migrants into the country who will, in turn, be permitted to import their spouses and minor children. Let’s say half of them are married with only two kids.

    That’s four million plus two million plus eight million, aka, fourteen million legal migrants eligible for the generous welfare system provided by American taxpayers. Kiss those tax cuts goodbye because the money will be needed to support them all.

  14. As usual, (Professor? Dr.?) Codevilla is spot-on. May I humbly add (in a manner that the allowed comment space does not allow) that the abandonment of assimilation is not coincidental, and its resurgence crucial:

    >>Possibly to change this pattern, the country—and immigrant communities—would have to face the Democratic immigration strategy’s ugly reality, namely to turn immigrant communities into the functional political equivalent of blacks

    Also, in humble spirit, to submit this for consideration:

    • Wigland’s article (the second link) is both truthful and inciteful (pun intended). Most people having more than two brain cells know the truth. The pity is that the number of people possessing the same is declining.

  15. Debasing it? More like destroying it. Make no mistake, this is more than a debate about ‘good’ americans vs. ‘not good’ americans. this is a debate about the use of migration to conquer one of the world’s great culture’s, the white american culture. Its not about whether people from all over the world can come to the U.S. and become American, it is about sustaining the character of what made America great in the first place. Europe gave up on itself long ago. We are witnessing self hating whites surrender their culture to Muslims, Africans, Asians, who will then battle amongst themselves for the right to take over. Imagine any of those groups getting their hands on the military arsenal of Europe. Imagine if they get their hands on America’s arsenal.